Buzzer, I fish the creeks off the ohio and Im figuring you have similar patterns as I do in my area. Are you getting them in creeks?????? I hate to ask questions but Ive been trying to do some "river" crappie fishing but i try the creeks off the ohio and boy have I struck out big time these past 2 years. If you don't mind can you let me know what the fish are doing in your area and when they move shallow etc. I would sure love some help. Ive got the lakes figured out but the creeks kick my but unless its spring time. You can pm it to me if you don't want to post it on main bored. If you dont wat to share the info I will also understand.......... Thanks Robin Wash Georgetown Ohio