THANKS FOR THE INFORMATION...I NEVER REALLY CONSIDERED THE SHAD BUT IT MAKES SENSE. I KNOW I HAVE WORKED MY TAIL END OFF TO FIND A QUALITY GILL IN PATOKA BUT I JUST DON'T SEE THEM. I GUESS I WILL HAVE TO CHANGE MY HUNTING GROUND FOR THAT PARTICULAR SPECIES.... DO YOU THINK MONROE HAS THE SAME PROBLEM? I REMEMBER YEARS AGO 77' 78' WHEN MY DAD USED TO TAKE ME TO MONROE AND WE WOULD CATCH SOME NICE GILLS BUT I FIND THE SAME PROBLEM THERE WHEN I GET THE CHANCE TO FISH IT. TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION I MAY GO 1 TIME PER YEAR TO MONROE SO I REALLY AM NOT BEING FAIR TO THAT LAKE? YOUR THOUGHTS.