Seen a lot of hunters out in my area north of Patoka about 30 miles. Hear no birds gobbling at all as I have been out hunting. Not found any shrooms at all yet..not sure if the black ones will even come up in my area as seen this happen before. Birds are screwie as all get out but have heard couple of shots and feel like someone has scored. Don't give up as later season can be productive on birds even if it ever geets hotter weather. Water temp on East Fork of the White early this week,,was still 56-57 for moving water. Cold nites are really keeping it up from warming,,and the last rain was 59-60 as well. I'm giving the birds a chance of surviving by using a black powder shotgun.