Bob, you have the worst luck of anyone I know but you do stick it out and are rewarded for it. I remember the night we went out, it was a hot and humid night in the middle of July two years ago, couldn't catch anything but dinks and then the sun was burning us up and I called it quits by noon but you stuck it for several more hours. We will have to do it again sometime. Good luck on the geese and doves this weekend buddy.