Very nice for the first time out. Birdman it is really good of you to share information to make others have a better day on the water that's what makes this site what it is. A Great place to meet others with the same passion and share information to better everyone's fishing time. I met Ed at the Woodstock show and I proudly fly my Crappie.com and Crappie Illinois decals because of the fine group of people on this site.