Thx. for the welcomes! I would like to say i hope i never instigate anything to receive such rude replies as "Handsome Dan" got on his post jigs vs/ crankbaits, minnows (I am from arkinsaw~ also) I've known Dan >50 yrs and even thoh he tends 2 b somewhat of a smartarse, if fact he has a higher I.Q. than 98% or the yahoo's out there - imho. tyvm