Thanks for the tips. Im still undecided on where to go tomorrow. I want to go to Talquin but I dont want to drive all the way up there, but Im kind of skitish about going to Orange b/c I have never been there before and going in blind at daylight isnt really my idea of fun. Might go to Talquin tomorrow and Orange Monday. Is Orange wide open like Talquin? Reason I ask is b/c the wind is going to be 16+ in Quincy tomorrow and thats a wide open lake. Going to be white caps prob.