Thanks guys. When trolling do i want deep and weed free, do I troll just above the weeds or in front of the weed line.... Look for a drop off etc.. ? do you use a blade on you jig or not? can any one tell me what spider riging is and also tightlineing? do any of you use under water lights when night fishing? I am off for the next 4-5 days and not even going to pick up that honey-do list plan on spending it fishing!! I think I will try Lake gibson in the early am, just depends on the wind!! and try saddle creek in the pm.. Tenarock Im going to try friday. At Tenarock does anyone have a fav. lake? Been a crazy week can't wait to relaxe out on that water. Thanks again