Yep on the knockers..... Most of you have met this clown in person and for that....I apologize.... For the others... He is my brother in law, Don. He's been taking care of his wife for the last several years and his fishing has been limited to just local areas and just short trips. A couple of weeks ago his wife passed away and don has been taking care of loose ends and made some trips to visit family out of state. Anyway, I decided that I could put up with him and invited him go on a much needed fishing trip. We had a great time and I think it was just what he needed now.