Better yet, why don't they sign in to CDC and join the conversations and come to a slabfest? And I have been to several tournaments and talked with the so called pro's. Like I said a long line of B.S. Can't say I blame em though gotta save the tricks for your own hat. And thats exactly my point. They might share something with ya, but it will probably be far from the truth or missing a few links to the chain.