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    thanks good information
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    imonbass's Channel - YouTube according for this guy 60' gives 60' bottom and 60' surface. you don't have to do math..is he teaching wrong for hb??

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    Quote Originally Posted by FalconSmitty View Post
    imonbass's Channel - YouTube according for this guy 60' gives 60' bottom and 60' surface. you don't have to do math..is he teaching wrong for hb??
    Maybe Greg will answer this for us....

    Doug is the HB professional...

    I have been wrong before....

    Greg can you clarify the SI Range setting before I confuse people...??

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    Im going with Rickie on this one. But we both could be wrong.



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    The Si Range is actually the slant range from the transducer. Think back to your geometry days (or daze for some of us! )… remember this:

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    Well the Si Range is that side “c”.
    Point “B” would be the transducer mounted to the boat.
    Side “a” would be the water column (water depth).
    Side “b” would be the lake bottom that is shown.


    I watched the video that was posted and did not hear Doug contradict this. If I missed something in it, please post back the time stamp for that section.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rnvinc View Post
    I think you are getting it...

    The SI Range setting has been misconstrued by HB customers from the very beginning of SI's introduction into the marketplace...

    The confusion is understandable because the HB advertisement says ..."480ft of bottom coverage can be seen with the HB SI"....so people just automatically think that the HB "SI Range" setting is what gives this advertisement of 480ft...

    In reality... The "SI Range" setting is an equation of 2 separate linear distances added together...

    The first linear distance is the water column...(depth of water in ft)..
    The second linear distance starts at the point where the SI beam first contacts the bottom (straight down) and reaches out along the bottom until the remainder of the SI Range setting is reached...

    An easier way to see this SI Range setting equation is turn on the "Range Lines" in the main menu...(I think its under the sonar tab in the latest software update)...

    As soon as the "Range Lines" are turned on (in the SI View)... The actual water depth your boat is currently in will be displayed on the SI image at the exact point where the "dark blue water column" touches the "lighter blue bottom"...

    This is because SI Range setting first measures straight down ... and then continues measuring out to the sides until the SI Range setting is reached...

    Rickie
    Now that Greg has cleared that up for us...I must go back and clarify a statement I made in my own quote above (highlighted in blue)...

    My statement (about the SI Range lines) is incorrect....

    The SI range lines are inserted onto the SI image in a division of 4 ...of the SI Range setting...

    "SI Range setting divided by 4"..= Range lines on the SI image

    If the SI Range setting is:
    40 ft..the range lines will be 10, 20, 30, 40
    60 ft..the range lines will be 15, 30, 45, 60
    70 ft..the range lines will be 17, 35, 52, 70
    80 ft..the range lines will be 20, 40, 60, 80...etc...

    I hope I didn't confuse anyone...

    Sometimes I have to actually go work with my unit...instead of trying to remember all this techno stuff...

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    So Rickie if the unit is set on 50ft. that is 50ft. from the transducer?



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    Quote Originally Posted by wilbur View Post
    So Rickie if the unit is set on 50ft. that is 50ft. from the transducer?
    Referring to Greg's post with the geometry triangle...

    The SI Range setting is the linear distance (in a straight imaginary line) from the xducer (sloping down and out to the side) to a point on the bottom that is equal to the SI Range setting...

    This "slant range" as Greg calls it is basically the Pythagorean Theorum of a "right triangle"...
    "a" (squared) + "b" (squared) = "c" (squared)

    In this "slant range" formula that HB is using... The deeper the water... The less % of the SI Range setting will be actual bottom coverage....

    What does this SI Range setting mean for us HB users...??

    1. Set the SI Range setting at a small enough setting so that structure on the SI image is descernable....(the higher the SI Range setting - the smaller structure will appear on the image)....
    2. Objects on the SI image are closer to the boat than they appear on the image (because the water column depth is figured in to the SI Range setting's "slant range" formula)...
    3. The SI Range setting is "not" the actual bottom coverage...

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