thanks hightower, i appreciate your support--and my husband appreciates me being done with the whole thing------welllll as far as he is concerned anyway----ill be playing for quite awhile---i have some new configurations to post either tonight or tomorrow. the new 4.0 upgrade gave the hds 7 the 3 screen format if choosen, like the hds 8. pretty cool. i will post an example soon. been playing with it. still trying out the different colors on structure scan and sonar, to decide what i like to see best, and or whats easier to see depending on conditions and depth as i have found out. learning curve for sure---hang in there, sell some old gold and go buy one!