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    Quote Originally Posted by Barnacle Bill View Post
    Aluminum boats are grounded from the starting battery, but DON"T use it as such.
    I'm not sure I understand, "Aluminum boats are grounded from the starting battery". No aluminum boat I've had, and that's quite a few has had the starting battery grounded to the hull. Now outboard motors usually have a ground wire from the powerhead to the mounting bracket. I believe this is to insure the bracket has a proper ground for the trim/tilt motor. So quite possibly the hull could be picking up this ground if there was a bare metal connection between the the hull and motor. I haven't seen any of my boats that the manufacturer has provided a bare metal connection between the motor and hull.

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    Here is a link to the V2 wiring. I don't see the problem. If one exists, Minn Kota caused it.

    Scroll to bottom of page of the link.

    http://www.northlandmarine.com/image...V2%2070-09.pdf
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cane Pole View Post
    Here is a link to the V2 wiring. I don't see the problem. If one exists, Minn Kota caused it.
    I agree. How could they not have anticipated it?

    The wiring doesn't show anything to tell what is happening other than the fact that the fuse is in the brown wire. My guess is that somehow they have played with ground references for the battery meter or noise reduction. Maybe holding the transducer shield at some voltage other than ground?? I'll try to find out more about it next time I talk to John.

    I think the main problem is charge-on-the run systems that put all batteries in parallel when the outboard is running.

    From what I know from John Jones, the symptom you usually see is a hot connector on the transducer line.

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    CP i changed my livewell pump now both + and - from the pump go to TM bat. Do you think the pump will cause interference? THe depth finder is hooked to start battery. There will be no connection between batteries. Other than what they say about the knurled connecter being tied to DF going to start bat. I dont understand if the trolling motor is grounded through this cable connecting the DF to TM ground and the DF is wired to start battery there is already a connection between the 2 . So how will connecting the two NEG. from TM to START Be any different. They are supposibly connected via cable from TM to DF to start battery. I am really confused on this. Besides if only neg. are connected how can there be a short? Without a pos. My understanding of a short is + and- touching.



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    Quote Originally Posted by CatFan View Post
    I agree. How could they not have anticipated it?

    The wiring doesn't show anything to tell what is happening other than the fact that the fuse is in the brown wire. My guess is that somehow they have played with ground references for the battery meter or noise reduction. Maybe holding the transducer shield at some voltage other than ground?? I'll try to find out more about it next time I talk to John.

    I think the main problem is charge-on-the run systems that put all batteries in parallel when the outboard is running.

    From what I know from John Jones, the symptom you usually see is a hot connector on the transducer line.
    I previously metered the battery gauge red wire with respect to B- and I red 24v. Never dawned on me to read B- to the black lead of the battery gauge, but I wasn't looking for this particular trouble either.

    I know the transducer cable shield is tied to the motor housing and the internal black wire in the transducer cable from the tm is not tied to the shield, but could be tied to the brown wire. I haven't checked this out yet.

    That fuse is a "fast buck" fuse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wilbur View Post
    CP i changed my livewell pump now both + and - from the pump go to TM bat. Do you think the pump will cause interference? THe depth finder is hooked to start battery. There will be no connection between batteries. Other than what they say about the knurled connecter being tied to DF going to start bat. I dont understand if the trolling motor is grounded through this cable connecting the DF to TM ground and the DF is wired to start battery there is already a connection between the 2 . So how will connecting the two NEG. from TM to START Be any different. They are supposibly connected via cable from TM to DF to start battery. I am really confused on this. Besides if only neg. are connected how can there be a short? Without a pos. My understanding of a short is + and- touching.

    I don't believe you are in any trouble. I just need to clarify the info provided by Catfan.

    The V2 drawing is incomplete, so I cannot state the correct answer. It is BS I can assure you this.

    Any two wires touching (making electrical contact) are considered shorted (a short). When + and _ touch, this is considered a power to ground short.

    People crack me up. When a light bulb flickers, people say its got a "short" in it. People like shorts I guess. ha

    When I find out what that brown fused wire is tied to, I will tell you what we can do.
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    OK thanks CP



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    Quote Originally Posted by wilbur View Post
    OK thanks CP
    Just think of that light bulb "short" character as I figure this stuff out (with any help I can get). Who knows who wrote the Text on the Minn Kota warning report. Get my jest. ha
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    I still dont see how 2 neg. touching could hurt anything even if they are from different sources.



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    Hey CP maybe one of them HB guys could help like GREG Or Joby. HB is part of MINKOTA



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