LOL, Sorry T Mike, but, it is as I said! mduncan62, Gave the tourneys up when it was interfering with my guiding. CB looked like it was dying but, it's looking much stronger this year. It's a VERY tough group to win. I've always said, "If you can win these,,, you are ready for the major trails"! Got another lake that is producing those picture fish,,,, Glen Elder(Waconda) Lake out in N. central KS. Produced some 16's and larger thru a 8in hole this last winter. KS board going to have a 'Camp' there the last of July. <*)}}}><