I have some pvc condos that have been out for 5 years and have never caught a fish off of them. The spots are good. Myrtle bushes dropped next to them will produce in a week. I'm through with PVC. I fill cinder blocks with concrete and carry wire out with me and a chainsaw. I can fix up 10 to 15 brushpiles in a few hours and then fish them for 3 or 4 years and replenish the good ones, find new spots for the others. CF