Slabbandit...thanks for your insight. I got excited yesterday when I read about you all plotting and sceaming on how to build these things. The fish have been "off" for me and the weather has turned against me as well so I got up this morning and decided I was going to use what you guys had said to make some of my own.

Thanks for the advice...I posted a thread of my first one. Wanted to get input about it before I build five more and sink'em next week.

Carpop...Sorry, no trying to hijack your thread!

CH