[QUOTE=mathewjp;3365827]I'll have to try the slip knot idea.

Reason I asked is because we set about 8 limb lines on the verdigris using perch for bait and didn't catch any. Left them for about 3 hours and most still had bait
It's about 20 foot deep in the area and we set them about 2 foot.

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Cats bite better at night we set out at dusk and check them at sun rise.