tried again and got the zzzzZZZZzzzzZZZZ but still no hook up. i think you guys are right since they are pretty much just knawing on my bait. they aren't taking it very far i keep thinking a good size fish would make more of a run. so i'm inclined to think i must be fishing for turtles. and that makes that one for sure hook a lttlw worse because the way that line moved it could've only been a good size fish to move line that fast.

may try again at another spot later in the week but last thing i want to deal with is some ole stuborn slinky neck turtle with a hook in it's mouth.


thanks for the advice!