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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfhnd View Post
    Richard Gene has a new video using red and white in muddy water.
    Awhile back I asked if any Considered white as a dark color ? Got the usual light in light , dark in dark , Been that way forever . Was fishing a not so clear ,actually muddy creek on Enid due to rain . Came across an old friend that ask me what I was using . Anybody that has ever fished with me knows that in Dirty water on Enid there is only one bait for me . PURPLE/CHARTREUSE ! I had a few and I ask what he was using and he said "white ". Since he had twice as many as I did I could not get it off my mind . When I asked him if he did not consider white as a light color, he replied only if it's transparent . The question now after seeing the "Richard Gene " video is why red/white rather than black /chartreuse, solid black ect, better ? Is the red/white more contrasting than Black /chartreuse ? I use red/white, and blue/white, in clear water . Looking to learn something here . Since it was ripping cold where he was and I do not fish in cold weather much how much does that come into play ? He did say the fish were 8 ft' deep but did not say how deep the water was actually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eagle 1 View Post
    Awhile back I asked if any Considered white as a dark color ? Got the usual light in light , dark in dark , Been that way forever . Was fishing a not so clear ,actually muddy creek on Enid due to rain . Came across an old friend that ask me what I was using . Anybody that has ever fished with me knows that in Dirty water on Enid there is only one bait for me . PURPLE/CHARTREUSE ! I had a few and I ask what he was using and he said "white ". Since he had twice as many as I did I could not get it off my mind . When I asked him if he did not consider white as a light color, he replied only if it's transparent . The question now after seeing the "Richard Gene " video is why red/white rather than black /chartreuse, solid black ect ? Is the red/white more contrasting than Black /chartreuse ?
    I would say red/white is likely no more contrasting than black/chartreuse .... in very dirty water. However, the chartreuse IS more transparent than white, all other things being equal.

    If color was the only trigger for a fish to hit your bait, then a cube shaped piece of plastic with those colors would be the only thing needed to catch fish. The shape, size, and action (or lack of) also comes into play. I've seen it too many times when a "stinger shad" shaped bait wasn't getting bit, but a boot tail or tube bait of the same colors would get smashed ... and vice versa.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrappiePappy View Post
    I would say red/white is likely no more contrasting than black/chartreuse .... in very dirty water. However, the chartreuse IS more transparent than white, all other things being equal.

    If color was the only trigger for a fish to hit your bait, then a cube shaped piece of plastic with those colors would be the only thing needed to catch fish. The shape, size, and action (or lack of) also comes into play. I've seen it too many times when a "stinger shad" shaped bait wasn't getting bit, but a boot tail or tube bait of the same colors would get smashed ... and vice versa.
    So comparing Chartreuse to white , white is a dark color .

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    Quote Originally Posted by eagle 1 View Post
    So comparing Chartreuse to white , white is a dark color .
    Tricky question. White isn't what I'd call a "dark" color, but it's not transparent .... so in dark conditions it would show up as a dark silhouette against a lighter background. The amount of light that reaches it would determine how much reflection it gave off, under those conditions.

    When you ask a search engine : what color is white at depth ? Here's a couple of notable facts -

    "White objects will appear bluish or gray underwater, and the darkness of that blue/gray appearance increases rapidly with depth. Red objects will begin to look dark brown or even black within a few meters of the surface."

    "The longest wavelengths, with the lowest energy, are absorbed first. Red is the first to be absorbed, followed by orange & yellow. The colors disappear underwater in the same order as they appear in the color spectrum. Even water at 5ft depth will have a noticeable loss of red."

    Now, those quotes may be referring to human eye concepts of color, and certain fish can see & distinguish many different shades of base colors, so they may not be 100% accurate where fish eye concepts of color are concerned.
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    In this video, Richard Gene says, Black/Chartreuse is the best color for muddy water.

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