Well I put on what I thought was a good reel after work today and headed to the lake, then found out the crank was froze up. I jumped in my truck and drove 1/2hr to Bps, looked at the Bps Pro qualifier and also the Shimanos, I liked the Sedona 2000 and after the guy at the counted shook his head no when I mentioned the Bps reel I asked more about the Shimanos, he said the new ones are very good and what keeps people from buying them vs others is there are only 4 bearings, 3 ball bearing and 1 roller, I spooled on 20# Power pro slick too. He also told me the Pleuger president is there nu.1 seller, and I have one, and it is a rough, noisy reeling machine even though it has 10 bearings, he mentioned once they get wet they have issues and my poles get wet, so Shimano it is and I have broken it in tonight with a 2# Lmb. Thanks for the suggestions guys