Thanks for the reply Craig I will get a picture put up as soon as I can I am out of them and will have to wait for the next hard rain to find more. I live in Linn county a few miles form the Marais de Cygnes river. They look just like a Canadian night crawler you buy at the bait shop but longer and the clitellum on them is much lager than the standard worm you buy. They do not smell bad are not green in color. Thank you for you the time you put in on this board and answering everyone's questions.