Thanks for the replies. Yes I prefer dipping or casting over spider rigging. But that might change this year. May just fish lakes that I know a little about and the crappie master lakes I plan on fishing this year. I heard they are catching some big crappie down there at Atkins and wandering about the lake lay out. Do have lee creek res. That had produced some good sized crappie a few years back. It's closer. Tried the Arkansas river a little last year. Caught a few and a bunch of cats. I know where I need to throw some jugs now! Them cats were pretty thick. Nimrod is another lake I would love to try. May make that trip this summer.