I have a Lowe Stinger 195. I rarely ever net a crappie, have noticed if I just go ahead and swing em in i loose less. Seems everytime I get a slab pappy on and try to net it, it ends up getting off at the surface. I have swung fish in over 2lbs with the 14 footers i have now. Poles I have now are ok, but I want to upgrade! Mine are perty darn big and heavy, but ya have to be TRYING to break one of those bad boys. So now I will have 2 different kinds! Thanyou all for yaws help! This site is awesome and saves me money from buying things i wouldn't be satisfied with.