We were setting brush piles but had some minners so we dropped a few of them in a few places without any luck. Never caught a crappie, only 2 bass. My buddy was bass fishing on the lake that same day and had spoke to 3 different crappie fisherman who said no bitty bitty for them either which made us feel a bit better. As stated before some lakes are better than others when it comes to the white perch...think we've confirmed that by now though.