Don is right, take your battle deeper now 9-15 foot brush piles are best along drop offs. GPS and a depth finder are a must. Dardanelle baffels me cos you catch big females with eggs in them seems all summer. I think some just hold thier eggs and dont spawn at all. Very strange. Don is a great guide to fish with who has taught me allot and any man who has three CrappieMaster's trophy's on his wall you better bet when he speaks... I listen. Not only that he takes one of his competitors out and shows him how he does it. I'm lucky to get to fish with him for free. Thanks Don and always look forward to hitting the water with you my friend.