I would be happy to provide some feedback on the 861 and none of it would be good (i.e. brand new boat with cracks and holes, lawsuit, stuck with the same boat, etc.) and would be happy to post pics of the cracks and workmanship. The pics in the magazine look real nice, but keep in mind they are from a distance. I'd go with another brand if I could do it all over. Oh yeah, and it rides rough unless the water is like glass.