What Big River Said! I use 6 lb stren on my dock shootn rods... On a new spool, I will get a 100 yards or so from the 1st pier and just start letting line out while trolling slow. Get to pier , reel it up, and don't have many problems. You will ALWAYS and I mean Always have loop get in your line every now and then. Just look at your reel/line before every cast, and if there is a loop, get it out before casting again.