I came across a 2018 Stella c2000s on Ebay for $540 and thought it was a good price but couldn't think of any reason i'll need more than what my 20' Twin Power c2000s can already do, BUT this 2022 Daiwa is a different beast base on the Youtube video). If I ever come across one closer to $500, Randy, like you i'm tempted to find out what a top-dog Daiwa will fish like....LOL!