Thanks for that, DB. I've always just been confused on what was being called what. I thought that flat north of the "big pit" on the creek channel was probably the big pit. Anyway, thanks for clearing it up. I've fished all over it in my kayak, before that my canoe, and even before that from the bank. I'm sure I've fished there for 15-20 years.I just never knew what was being called what