Well, the thing is, with the way the water moves plus the wind factor, I am having to fish from a Pier and the minnow I cast out pretty far but within minutes, it's back floating where I'm at. I go to cast out again and it's dead. That's why I was looking for someone with a boat. I grew up trolling with Rattle Traps and so forth. Thanks for the luck! I'm taking my kids again. When I hook them thru the tail, they just take the minnow right off the hook!!