Thread: Lead wire question

Originally Posted by JUNGLEJIMJIGS

I have a 1/24 mold with a collar that will take #8 hooks, maybe smaller. I can pour some for you. Depending on hook they weigh 1.3- 1.4 grams. Head is 4mm. Mold also takes a roller swivel if you want some tiny spinners.

Let me try the ones I’ve ordered and I may get with you on pouring me some jigs .
Do you know if the Mustad Ultrapoint size 8 will work with your mold ? Mustad 32833NP-BN-8-100U.

The 32746 Ultrapoints will fit these molds. Unsure if the 32833 will fit. They have a heavier wire with a shorter 90 degree bend at the hook eye. I think the 32746 Ultrapoint would be better for you. I have a few molds that take #8 hooks. These jigs weigh 1.2-1.5 grams and were poured on #8 Victory sickles. I don't have any small Mustad jig hooks right now but if you buy some, send them to me and I will pour them for you.

I can send you some of these to play with at no charge. I'm sure there's something here that will work for you. The ultrapoint hooks are longer than sickles and would give you a little more room on the shank for tying.

Jim , I like the hookup power of sickle hooks but the hook gap is one size bigger than a J hook .
In smaller sizes , 8, 10 , 12 , I prefer the J hook .
Hopefully tomorrow I’ll be doing some casting experimenting with some identical poured lead 1/32 (1.0g on my gram scale) jigs on different length rods , at the lake ..
I’ll also be comparing my Tungsten 4.6mm jigs that weigh .87g, ( on my gram scale) which , according to Google search , almost 1/32oz (.885g.) .
These are both collarless jigs .
I have 100 , 1/32 collarless , poured jigs with Mustad Ultrapoint hooks , on order , that should be here by Friday . I’ll weigh these and post what they weigh when I get them .
If I find none of these work for me I’ll be in touch with you and see what we can figure out .
Thanks for offer to help .

Ok , I received my 1/32 ball head jigs today, pour on size 8 hooks and tied up 10 of them .
Tied they weigh right at 1.0g on my scale .
But , IMO , the head is too big . I’m going try them next time out .
I haven’t been able to fishing this week . Something keeps coming up that’s keeping me from going.

Anyway . I’m going to stick with my Tungsten jigs . The 4.6 mm with a size 8 hook gives me a finished jig at .87g . (1/32)
I really prefer the 4mm bead on a size 10 hook that builds a jig that weighs right at 1/48oz . .58g
Just hope the wind isn’t bad next time I get to go .

Picture of the 1/32 with the #8, would like to see what you're working with.

I got to fish a little over an hour this morning before the heat overwhelmed me and forced me to head home to some A/C .
I did more experimenting than I did actual fishing .
I took three rods
A 4’11” Major Craft Finetail Glass with a 500 size Shimano Soare BB
A 5’6” St Croix Premier ULF ,with a Daiwa Fuego lt 1000
And a 6’ TFO Panfish UL with a Daiwa Fuego lt 1000
All were spooled with Daiwa j-braid and Floroclear leaders .
I started off with the shortest and worked my way up to the longer rod .
All had poured lead 1/32 (1g) jigs tied on them .
The TFO won the distance contest but not by much , a few feet .
Then I tied on a 4mm Tungsten bead jig on all of them . About 1/48oz (.58g)
Again the TFO won but , the difference was even less .m.
The distance difference between the different jig weights wasn’t that much either . Again a couple of feet .
The gain in distance by going up in weight wasn’t worth the increase in size of the jigs .
I much prefer the 4mm jigs tied on a size 10 hook as opposed to the size 8 hooks used on the bigger jigs .
I am and will continue to be a micro jig fisherman and the , almost twice the size 1/32 jigs don’t qualify as a micro jig .
I had several hits on the bigger jig but didn’t connect until I was fishing with the smaller jigs .
I only caught one to keep the skunk away , packed up and headed home before I melted
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In the pictures, the jigs on the left are size 8 hooks , top ones are a 4.6mm tungsten bead jig , with the bottom ones being the poured 1/32 jigs .
For comparison, the ones on the right are 4mm bead jigs tied on size 10 .
Thanks for everyone’s tips and suggestions, but it looks like I’ll be tying some more size 10 , 4mm jigs to fill a couple of boxes , that’ll slip into my shirt pocket.
BTW , that small shellcracker represents 90% of my catches . I do catch larger ones when conditions are better . Right now the water temp is probably in the upper 80’s or low 90’s and had a little foam floating around today . Just too hot .

Nice ties. They all look good to me. Maybe tie a gray ghost pattern or two. I bought some #10 32833's to play with and see what molds will fit them.