I quit buying Pflueger reels. I had bad experiences with the reels and customer service. If you get one of the spinning reels wet it locks up. Had several do it. I called customer service and was honest that the reels dipped in the water (Not in the water 10 seconds) their answer was $50 plus parts to fix. I have a bunch of Chinese reels I bought off Ebay for $8-10 and they are 10 years old now, not one problem.