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    Quote Originally Posted by pab1981 View Post
    Like I said, I can kind of see moving on to more active fish in most circumstances. But even still how do you explain how many times guys multiple pole fishing see the fish key in on a certain color? It still happens all the time even now, not everyone is Livescoping. I can guarantee you we wouldn’t have won a two day Crappie Masters a few years ago if I followed your theory. At the time, pre-Livescope, we each held a pole in each hand, four baits in the water all the time. The fish continually ignored my partners baits and whatever bait I had on my second rod most of the time. 90 percent of the fish we caught over two days were on the one rod out of the four.


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    Have seen that spider rigging minnows years ago. Thinking everything the same but something differnt cause one pole catch the most fish . Have seen 2 guys in same boat only difference was tube color . One cathing most then move to next brush pile and switched , so who knows Also seen two guys with everything same many times one catching fish and other one not sittting next to each other .
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    I used to believe similar to you. That was back several years when the fishing was great on Lake Barkley. I used the same couple Midsouth tubes all the time, didn’t own a minnow bucket and always caught a bunch of fish. But as the lake got more pressure and after several years of bad spawns things changed a lot. I have a feeling a lot folks are going to get to see it first hand as more and more people get Livescope and more and more pressure is applied to our fisheries.


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    Quote Originally Posted by pab1981 View Post
    While I agree the average guy would benefit much more from learning to control the boat well enough to put the jig where it needs to be than worrying about jig/bait selection I don’t agree with generalizations that line/jig choice never matters. I could even possibly be on board with you might be better off to keep moving to new fish that will bite whatever jig you put down or worded another way just chasing aggressive fish versus trying to coax stubborn fish into biting. But I have seen it multiple times on my Livescope, even it dirty water, where I get a jig in close enough to get the target fish to move on the bait but not bite or even spook back to brush. And then quickly switch rods to one with a different bait and catch the same fish. You also don’t have to spend much time on the internet to hear similar accounts from the guys truly at the top of the tournament game. And I am not talking guys pushing a sponsored product or bait. Just real world tournament experience with an individual particular fish.


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    Quote Originally Posted by rojoguio View Post
    I preach Presentation, Preach it! Falls on deaf ears. When the angler knows it all to start with it's hard to teach them, they usually just want Your spots.
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    I get ask where to fish and get told when a crappie will and will not bite. Two things I don't agree with at all. I teach how to locate crappie only. If the angler doesn't want to put in the seat time and just wants me to say "fish here", I'm not interested in giving my fishing spots away to someone who is not willing to find their own. I regularly pull fish out of places where I am told they won't bite. Presentation of the bait catches more fish than color. When you can properly present a bait to a crappie in a way that stimulates it's natural instincts to eat you catch fish. Afterwards you dial in the color, size, profile, etc you catch a limit.

    This post is in response to a post on the first page, unfortunately we can't insert a supportive comment to a post right below the post your responding too.
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    I am sure once fish become pressured enough it will get tougher. Just like Deer hunting you can tell when they been pressured .
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    There are times when you can throw anything down there and catch a box of crappie.... Yep there are times that may happen, maybe twice a year but to consistently catch crappie year round you better have an assortment of bait colors and sizes and be willing to move.....
    There are those that during the so called crappie season can be as good as any of us at catching crappie..... And they feel they're the best at catching crappie, then you don't hear from them until the next so called crappie season
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    Quote Originally Posted by trypman1 View Post
    NIMROD- I have had the broken hook deal a couple of times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Redge View Post
    Ketchn what was that guys name that took the piece of mop for a jig.
    He’s on that other forum down your way.
    It’s on the tip of my tongue ya know


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    Ernest something er other .....and let me tell ya for sure , he flat out drove me crazy asking me to go ketch fish with him.
    behind the scenes i had multiple warnings about him and his agenda and knew it would not be something in my best interest .
    pm me for the dirt if you want it .....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ketchn View Post
    Ernest something er other .....and let me tell ya for sure , he flat out drove me crazy asking me to go ketch fish with him.
    behind the scenes i had multiple warnings about him and his agenda and knew it would not be something in my best interest .
    pm me for the dirt if you want it .....
    That’s it Ernest Patty.
    Never fished with him but he did have some entertaining videos.
    I’ll call next week, shoot the breeze


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