Used to have a small lake close by that had them (not sure why 'cause I've never caught them anywhere else) and I caught a lot in the 8 - 9 inch range. Don't ever remember catching any bigger though. They had a very good average size, but for some reason did not seem to get bigger than that. The state drained the lake and then refilled it and stocked it, but the redbreasts are there no more. Makes me sad.