Thread: Oh what a difference between lures of a similar design!

Spoon
I've had so many people telling me that "their" specific lures and live bait were the only way to catch crappie....so I show them that Crappie can be caught on paper, clear plastic bags, and trash....with or without a crappie niblet....if you know the basics about Crappie and their environment.

The lure (size, colors, shape, scent etc.) will attract the fish. The action of the lure, or the presentation action that you impart to the lure, will trigger the bite.

Is this what you are referring to as

Toro poo poo

? Because it's exactly the intention of the post plus:
1. lure characteristics matter more than color and at times matter as much as color (color in certain amounts or brightness) at other times but only because of a visual quality that stimulates activity
2. presentation is as important as the lure chosen and requires considerations such as speed, variations in speed, depth, jigging or swimming, etc. that stimulates activity

note:"that stimulates activity" where none may exist.

Granted, a piece of aluminum foil may get a fish to bite, but how often? What lure control is possible with a piece of aluminum foil? What does any fish that bites a lure think it represents? Who cares!!! The fish was provoked - case closed!

Confidence in a lure is based not on just looking at it in the package, but actually catching fish day after day, season after season and though I believe that there are hundreds of lure designs fish can be caught on, far less will work for large numbers of fish when conditions require a certain presentation and the lure action it complements.I would not presume to recommend any lure to anyone but instead as a habit, note that what works more often must have attributes / characteristics that you believe attract attention and get bit more often - especially on the second cast/ to the same fish! Lures that are ignored on the second cast - I change to ones that get attacked on even the third cast and get hooked. Why does a curly tail work or any other tail action? I have my theory and it has nothing to do with what a fish think the action represents.

Today was a tough day - not the usual 40 plus fish per angler. But many nice size crappie, perch and sunfish were caught in open water and off one point on only a few lures and colors. Was color important? Maybe. Was lure action and presentation? Most definitely! and that ain't no "Toro poo poo!" (BTW my partner was using different lures with different presentations and colors and caught far fewer fish in the same areas I caught fish. One of the best anglers I know had a hard time catching fish on lures I gave him that I made the day before - lures he has total confidence in.)

If one wishes to make color choice more complicated than it need be, by all means use the color(s) that you have confidence will catch fish. But Please, I say Please, try going against the grain and simplify color choice to just one - say white or pearl or chartreuse. If confidence is not forthcoming after catching a number of fish along side an another angler that is 'matching the hatch', than stay with what color you have confidence in of the lure in a design and presentation that matters more.

In case some haven't noticed, the lures shown in fish's mouths are examples of lure designs that have caught six different fish species year after year, some more often in most years and rarely not gotten bitten where fish were found. And that, again, is key for any lure to work - location, location, location. No toro poo poo in that statement!

Back to the statement:

Wayne, I believe Spoonminnow is saying he has CONFIDENCE in the lure, size, action, presentation and movement of particular lures to attract the fish and then induce them or trigger them to biting the lure.

Fish caught speak louder than words and build confidence over time by the sheer numbers of fish caught over many outings as compared to other lures that don't produce as consistently.

Good luck matters!!

Originally Posted by Cane Pole

Good luck matters!!

To some degree... but...

Spoonminnow, your missing out on some income. You could get rich selling cliff notes to your threads.

Originally Posted by Cane Pole

Good luck matters!!

I don't believe in luck...I prefer to believe that using your intelligence, experiences, and knowledge, allows you to make good choices, and puts you in a position for your success.

Originally Posted by INTIMIDATOR

I don't believe in luck...I prefer to believe that using your intelligence, experiences, and knowledge, allows you to make good choices, and puts you in a position for your success.

You got that right!

Originally Posted by INTIMIDATOR

I don't believe in luck...I prefer to believe that using your intelligence, experiences, and knowledge, allows you to make good choices, and puts you in a position for your success.

You got that right!

Went out yesterday and modified a Strike King crappie grub. The fatter body got a few hits, but once I cut the body's belly to make the lure more streamline, fish jumped all over it. The tail had already been modified : the original tail was shorter and had a small ball at the tip; it was replaced by the fusion of a spinnerbait trailer tail to the body allowing for a much greater finesse or whip action on a very slow retrieve in 9-13' with 79 degree water temp.. (see picture in the above post)

90 degrees and still caught over 38 fish! Knowing what to modify on a bait (as posted) can make all the difference in a lure's ability to catch fish.

Modification works as well as knowing a lure's limitations!