
Originally Posted by
speKzilla
. . . but one should examine all facets of a philosophy.
I agree but examining the multiple facets of any philosophy one is always limited by how much time one has that he can spend studying. If it appears logical consistent and non-contradictory I can usually be persuaded on those facets examined. I haven’t found myself totally in 100% agreement with anyone yet. I pick and choose those elements from many that I find compelling and that fits my current understanding and hierarchy of values I hold.

Originally Posted by
speKzilla
As for her smoking,the point addressed was not her freedom, but her out and out rejection and disdain for the evidence presented by science.
As one who upholds liberty I say one should be free to make their own choices in weighing the scientific evidence and the effects experienced by using nicotine though as an ex-smoker I now adamantly despise and avoid the expelled smoke of others.

Originally Posted by
speKzilla
Combining B and C, her problem was not so much hypocracy, the problem was hubris. Pride doe go before the fall.
Hypocrisy and hubris have forever been part of the human experience and forever remains a possibility for all. When you say “Pride doe go before the fall” seems to me you are equating the inevitable certainty of death with something like Nixon’s resignation which epitomizes a real human failing.
I haven’t really characterized your position yet but really think Nelson Hultberg of Americans For A Free Republic offers a very good analysis on the current bifurcation with the libertarian and conservative movements and how their divergence has a negative effect on the maintenance of our liberties from his article that can be read from this posting. http://afr.org/modern-freedom-movement-1940-2014/
From what I’ve read of this fellow I find him rather compelling IMHO. Examples from that article.
“This political philosophy stands for the individual over the collective, a strictly limited constitutional government based upon federalism, equal “rights” instead of equal “results,” a free-market economy, no entangling foreign alliances, and an objective code of morality for society as opposed to the moral neutrality of Rothbardians and modern liberals. This is what needs to be restored.”
“This is the crucial issue of our time – restoration of libertarian conservatism in America and its “settled code of freedom for the individual.” If we, who believe in free enterprise and the Constitution, wish to reverse America’s drift into an authoritarian state, our goal must not be to accommodate, but to purge the Gargantua on the Potomac that usurps our rights and freedoms with impunity. Libertarians and conservatives must be reunited to effectively challenge this monster.”
“The statist Gargantua controls our lives today because there is no effective ideological counterforce to overthrow its moral-philosophical-theoretical base.”
“There is no difference between communism and socialism, except in the means of achieving the same ultimate end: communism proposes to enslave men by force, socialism—by vote. It is merely the difference between murder and suicide.” Ayn Rand