Thread: Global Warming Fact.

I would suggest this 2 hr. video titled A Critique of Climate Change Science and Policy as time well spent for those seeking some greater depth and understanding on this issue.


From this site "It is now widely believed that man-made greenhouse gases are causing an unnatural warming of the earth that will have devastating consequences for human life. Environmentalists and politicians are pressing for severe restrictions on greenhouse gas emissions in order to prevent climate change. But what does the scientific evidence actually support regarding the causes of climate variability and the role of anthropogenic greenhouse gases? Are the predictions of catastrophic changes supported by scientific fact? Are governmental economic intervention and restrictions on emissions an appropriate policy response? Drs. Keith Lockitch and Willie Soon address these critical issues and answer audience questions in a lively panel discussion. (Recorded April 13, 2009.)"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbAUBCo06Sw

In the beginning I found listening to Dr. Soon as some what trying but did find him logical and compelling on this issue IMHO.

you forgot agent orange

Originally Posted by Lowellhturner

In the end it will be our grandkids and history who decides whom was `correct`. After all, there have been many dire `warnings` about all kinds of things; dioxins, PCBs, DDT, launching a space shuttle in extreme cold weather...they were all proven `incorrect`, right ? Of course, by then it will also be a little too late to do anything about it, so why argue or worry it, right ? Everything`s JUST FINE...

thanks fishingpox, knew there was something I was forgetting...

I can send you some in a cup. My cup day at VA is this Friday.

Originally Posted by Lowellhturner

In the end it will be our grandkids and history who decides whom was `correct`. After all, there have been many dire `warnings` about all kinds of things; dioxins, PCBs, DDT, launching a space shuttle in extreme cold weather...they were all proven `incorrect`, right ? Of course, by then it will also be a little too late to do anything about it, so why argue or worry it, right ? Everything`s JUST FINE...

I hate to take this further off topic from the original post. But.....aren't we being a bit selective about what we will leave our Grandkids? What about the national debt? I think that is a more sensible and achievable project than the polar ice caps. DP

Wonder of wonders so many opinions, it would be truly appreciated if rather than sad attempts at humor actual scientific articles from reputable scientific journals would be referenced.

Originally Posted by strmwalker

Antarctic polar ice extent has set another new record, defying alarmist global warming claims. Surpassing the greatest month-of-April ice extent in recorded history, the new record throws cold water on alarmist claims that the Antarctic ice cap has crossed a melting point of no return.
The most recent Antarctic ice sheet alarm began with a paper examining a particular glacier in West Antarctica that “has long been considered prone to instability.” The paper speculates that a collapse of this particular glacier is unavoidable, though it will not actually collapse for at least a couple centuries and possibly not until 2900 AD.
Notably, while the majority of Antarctica is getting colder and the Southern Hemisphere polar ice cap is expanding, West Antarctica is a smaller portion of the continent that is experiencing modest warming. Taking advantage of this outlier trend in a smaller portion of the continent, the media has a history of highlighting modest warming in West Antarctica or a small retraction of West Antarctic sea ice and claiming this is caused by global warming and representative of Antarctica as a whole.
Global warming alarmists and their media allies are at it again. The Los Angeles Times published a story titled, “Irreversible collapse of Antarctic glaciers has begun, studies say.” The Seattle Post-Intelligencer weighed in with, “How Washington coastal cities will look when the Antarctic Ice Sheet melts.” The Christian Science Monitor published a story titled, “Catastrophic collapse of Antarctic ice sheet now underway, say scientists.”
The good news, beyond the less-than-alarming truth about the paper’s findings, is observations show Antarctic ice extent is undergoing a long-term expansion. Alarmists try to scare people into believing a “catastrophic collapse of Antarctic ice sheet [is] now underway” at the very time that the Antarctic ice extent is setting record after record.
It’s not just the Antarctic, either. Precise satellite measurements of both polar ice caps show no decline in polar ice since the satellite instruments were launched in 1979. Not only is total polar ice extent currently greater than the long-term average; polar ice extent has been greater than the long-term average for nearly all of the past 16 months.

And to know they are and have been studying for a long time, active exposed volcanic activity underneath the ice for a long time as well so how the enviromentalists going to control active volcanos spewing lava? Blame it on mankind??

I fished Falls Lake NC didnt see a single iceburg all day must be global warming