I think the drawing is trying to show vertical beam size as well, but the drawing isn't good. The beam is much taller than it is wide, making it almost a slice as the video described.Quote:
Originally Posted by rnvinc
I think the drawing is trying to show vertical beam size as well, but the drawing isn't good. The beam is much taller than it is wide, making it almost a slice as the video described.Quote:
Originally Posted by rnvinc
I think Rees is probably right on the sensor used for direction...Quote:
Originally Posted by rnvinc
Piezoes do not know direction...piezoes just vibrate...
Something has to tell the processor where to place the "pizza slice" on the display...
The cable steer foot pedal is "consistantly relative" to the direction the TM is pointing...thus...so is the direction the piezoes are pointing...
The sensor uses this "consistant relativity" of the foot-pedal/TM/piezoes to tell the processor where to place the "pizza slice" on the display...
I think..........
Rickie
My guess would be the same technology that allows "left" and "right" SI beams not to interfere with each other....Quote:
Originally Posted by Stymie
1. They are not "crossing" each other...
2. Possibly alternate pinging...
3. Possibly filters
Another question is how is the SpotlightScan beams not interfering with the DownScan beam...??...(maybe same as above...)
Rickie
i dont think there is a ds beam.the spotlight beam is being turned to appear as dsQuote:
Originally Posted by rnvinc
Yes i agree. I own and use the humminbird 360 so i can tell you from seeing for myself that it works great and i can tell from the pictures shown sofar from the spotlight that there is a concern about range.the pictures shown so far are only showing structure close or directly below the transducer.there needs to be some shots showing structure and fish out from the transducer to show how they will appear.for right now tbings look iffy to meQuote:
Originally Posted by justinp61
Justin, i no what your saying.your using your si/di to get those real clear pi tures but your boat has to be moving for that to happenQuote:
Originally Posted by justinp61
I don't put much stock in company released photos, been burnt before. The rubber will hit the road when regular guys like us start posting images and experiences with it. Time will tell.
here are my questions ,
do I need a new fish finder up front for this to work?
what about GPS up front?
how well will the DI be with the trolling motor moving the boat at a very slow speed?
I fish brush piles, thats about it.
Look at this picture.idont see how that its possible for the spotlight picture being the same as the 2d/di. In the 2d/di the boat is moving from deep to shallow water yet the spotlight appears to be in a constent dept.maybe im wrong but that how i interpet this picturehttp://www.wired2fish.com/lowrance-releases-new-spotlight-feature-and-sonarhub/Quote:
Originally Posted by justinp61
Left and Right SS is 180 degrees apart, facing opposite directions.Quote:
Originally Posted by rnvinc
DS is 90 degrees from each SS crystal and folks have shown where there is interference.
This is 30 degrees apart. I'd think if you are getting interference with beams 90 degrees apart, you'd experience the same with beams 30 degrees apart.
You are probably correct here Stymie...Quote:
Originally Posted by Stymie
This is most likely one of those "proprietary" things that we may never know how Lowrance manages interference in this SpotlightScan technology...
Rickie
Time slots.
Found this in the link kosmo provided...
It explains more of what the sensor in the foot pedal does...
Lowrance Releases New SpotlightScan and SonarHub « Wired2Fish
QUOTE:....(in part)
Lowrance unveiled two new products for 2014 at the Fort Lauderdale Boat Show. The first will pique the interest of anglers who fish from the bow with a cable steer trolling motor with a new transducer and functionality called SpotlightScan. SpotlightScan gives the angler the ability to scan outward with a sweep of the trolling motor head.
The onscreen guide lines on the SpotlightScan show white when you’re sweeping at a good speed and red when you’re sweeping too fast to ensure you’re getting a good picture. The best part we saw is that anglers already using the Lowrance HDS Touch units, can just install the new transducer and plug and play. The new transducer does Sonar, StructureScan, DownScan and now SpotlightScan. Truly enabling you to see fish and cover all around you under the surface at an affordable price point and it works with both Minn Kota and MotorGuide trolling motors.
UNQUOTE:
Sounds like the sensor inputs foot pedal speed to the processor so that the the color of the beams (white vs red) on the display show the user the optimum "manual" sweep speed...
It seems like this is much like HB's "unofficial" statement of boat speed/chart speed ratio gives optimum SI images ...the SpotlightScan will also require an "optimum" beam sweep speed/display data update speed ratio...to garner satisfactory images...
It remains to be seen if the user will have control of the display data update speed for adjustability to maybe..."sweep the TM faster with a higher display data update speed"....(similar to HB's "Chart Speed" user control allows faster boat speed scanning with a higher SI "Chart Speed" setting and still get satisfactory images)...
Rickie
I'd like to be able to try this new system, since I have a touch unit, but I'm not likely to give up my Terrova for it.
That makes sense which may be why they had a range limitation disclaimerQuote:
Originally Posted by Cane Pole
Hmm. Foot pedal accelerometer. I can still make it work with my Terrova. Good challenge if I decide to get one. Not sold on any new stuff 'til I see it work. Someone buy one so I can come look.
Cane Pole with Rickie,s transducer bracket ,will be no problem for you to make,I think even I could do that so I know it will be a piece of cake for you.
Quote:
Originally Posted by genec
You are right. It is just a mind over mater application.
Cane Pole, as I think about it ,it would be better on a bracket like Rickie makes because that way you could come up to the right movement speed whereas with your foot speed of turning would be hard to control each time even with color to guide you and movement would not be as smooth,IMO. Of course opinion can be bought a dime a dozen,good ones would cost a little more,LOL.
My guess is they will get better clarity than the 360, but less coverage......kind of like their structure scan now.
i like whats happenning here on this thread..youall are already talking about modifying a oproduct thats not even out yet. KOOL:crazy:
Some of us are not limited to just what available or dictated by manufacturers,salesmen and marketeers for the bass bustards.
Tell em Cane, if it works well I will have one most likely and I wont be giving up my Terrova, too many great minds around here to just say oh well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cane Pole
I don't see why it wouldn't work with the sensor just tucked away somewhere...
It it's only function is to show the user if the pedal is being "swept" too fast...most users can tell by the image itself if the "sweep" is making a satisfactory image or not without being reminded by the "red" lines around the pizza slice...
:dono
Rickie
One thing I saw mentioned was that the swing of the motor may be too fast on the electric drive trolling motors.
There are ways around most all obstacles.
Yes!!!!!!!!! I really like the ideal of modifyng and tinkering around with stuff.bass taste good to
Bass are a nuisance and should be treated the same as Asian carp!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by kosmo
I use modifyed bracket with my 360 http://i826.photobucket.com/albums/z...psafb8b18e.jpg
If & when u do it ya think u could make several at the same time, I think I would be honored to be able to place my name on the future waiting list.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cane Pole
Great info. I can see where we could apply this to lowrance products. Great post.Quote:
Originally Posted by kosmo
Need to come up with one that will mount to a kayak. I could have some fun with that.Quote:
Originally Posted by jaxsprat
spotlight for sale yet ?
the wife desperately wants to give me one for Christmas
The word is February on the release of the Lowrance Spotlight Scan but that may change and they could ship a little sooner. BrianQuote:
Originally Posted by brettw
She is desperate !
I talked to Lowrance tech support about this flashlight. They need new line cards or a teleprompter. Accelerometer and rate gyro are new words to them.
I pretty well figured out what to do for non cable TMs. A pan and tilt circuit will do the trick. If I decide to get this particular transducer, I will make myself one with rickies round transducer stick which he hasn't came up with yet.. I can program an ideal pan and tilt rate which would eliminate "foot pedal training". Probably will control the flashlight separate from the Terrova. Simple.
Callshy could probably work something up for you also. I've talked with him about doing something with the bow-mount 360 for my boat that I'm getting for Christmas.
Flashlight on a stick with and old winshield wiper motor controled by rheostat switch.........sounds better than pumping..........i cant believe that no one else has thought of useing a motor instead of pumping the trolling motor:Rofl
Yeall no that im only joking with yealll:Rofl...hay heres another ideal.....yeall could also get some use from that winshield squirter thingy.........yeall can keep cool by spraying water in your face cause im sure your going to work up a sweat trying to keep up with the speed/picture of flashlight while running trolling and still trying to find time to fish :Rofl