Rickie thx for taking the time and doing that.
We appreciate it
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Rickie thx for taking the time and doing that.
We appreciate it
Ive been thinking it over and see kosmo has his ducers tilted , I think im going to off set mine a little and see what kind of pix I can get , im sure he has tried different angles and found what looks the best maybe my next outing i'll see what happens .
In order for the beam of the SI piezo to be pointing straight down ...the HDSI xducer needs to be tilted 60°...Quote:
Originally Posted by gotta_fish
http://i477.photobucket.com/albums/r...psc69ceb32.jpg
You will also need a HB Dual Beam 200kHz/83kHz xducer and the AS SIDB Y cable for the system to be able to obtain depth...(because the 2d piezo will be pointing also 60° from vertical)...
The digital depth is used is the processing of the SI image...so it's important that the setup gets accurate depth readings..(from an additional 2d xducer)...
You can use any HB xducer that is capable of 200kHz/83kHz ...because the pin configuration in the "Dual Beam" leg of the AS SIDB Y cable will only connect the 2d piezo...
Rickie
Here's a few from my rotated HDSI...
http://i477.photobucket.com/albums/r...ps9886268c.png
http://i477.photobucket.com/albums/r...ps74218b07.png
http://i477.photobucket.com/albums/r...ps57a4231e.png
http://i477.photobucket.com/albums/r...ps127d4bc5.png
http://i477.photobucket.com/albums/r...psd1574e56.png
Rickie
Keep in mind by rotating your transducer you will no longer have si unless you have upto 3 more si units connected by ethernet.4 si units connected by ethernet with 1 having the rotated transducer with 3 units with the stock si transducer will all be able to share dedicated di and di from si and si on all 4 unitsQuote:
Originally Posted by gotta_fish
Rickie ive got a 2d trans already being used on this unit for higher speed but with a switch not the AS SIDB Y cable , now with what kosmo says about the 3 other units being needed , Im going to have to skip this idea , 3 more units I'd rather buy a bigger boat lol. Thanks again for all the info. Thanks for the detailed drawing of how the ducer works.
Oh I noticed you using the lower range setting , I leave mine in auto , should I play with the setting to get better images.
sorry,im not very good explaining.you only need one unit to do what your wanting.. You can connect up to 4 units via ethernet that would all share the rotated transducerQuote:
Originally Posted by gotta_fish
You can manually ajust the upper and lower settings or leave them in auto. Works on the 2d alsohttp://i826.photobucket.com/albums/z...ps377a5cb4.pnghttp://i826.photobucket.com/albums/z...psd8ce1131.pngQuote:
Originally Posted by gotta_fish
Like kosmo said ...you only need 1 unit to use the DI xducer...(but without a switch only 1 xducer can be connected at a time)...Quote:
Originally Posted by gotta_fish
The TS3 switch allows the use of the stock HDSI xducer and a separate DI xducer and just switch between the 2 xducer's ...depending on which view you want to see...
The 5port Ethernet switch like kosmo uses allows him to connect the HDSI xducer, a DI xducer, and the rotated 60° xducer (and 2 separate SI units)...and not have to switch cables around to use any of the 3 separate xducer's...on either of his 2 separate units...
Rickie
The "Lower Range" setting and the "Upper Range" setting will allow structure to look bigger on the DI or 2d view...Quote:
Originally Posted by gotta_fish
Rickie
Why are you using a switch for the high speed 2d "shoot thru" instead of the AS SIDB Y cable ...??Quote:
Originally Posted by gotta_fish
Which switch is it...??
Rickie
I was losing the bottom when I'd get around 25 mph and was told to get a switch . I was told I needed a switch to use 2 ducer its not a shoot through.US3 so I can use the 2d transducer for running alittle faster from place to place . its a switch to change from ducer 1 to ducer 2 , I have a splitter cable but thought I had to use this high dollar switchQuote:
Originally Posted by rnvinc
The US3 switch allows 2 head units to be connected to 1 xducer..Quote:
Originally Posted by gotta_fish
The TS3 switch allows 2 xducer's to be connected to 1 head unit...(I assume this is yours...??...)
While the switch will work with your setup...it is not a necessity...
The AS SIDB Y cable would allow your head unit to receive 2d from the Dual Beam xducer...and then receive SI and Temp from the HDSI xducer...this is a little simpler setup as there is no "switching" needed...(the head unit just sees the 2 xducer's as all data coming from 1 xducer)..
Rickie
If I'm.not mistaken I was told I needed that switch to use my other transducer ,I think I have one of those splinter cables . So I spent $80 on a switch I didn't need.
Here's the silver lining....Quote:
Originally Posted by gotta_fish
You already have most of what you need to setup the separate DI xducer....
If you purchase 1 of the HB dedicated DI xducer's....your setup would look like this...:
*Your stock HDSI xducer hooked to the "Side Image" leg of the AS SIDB Y cable ...
*Your present 2d xducer (XNT 9 20?...XNT 9 20 T?) hooked to the "Dual Beam" leg of the AS SIDB Y cable..
*The AS SIDB Y cable hooked to the "Line Thru" leg of the HB TS3 switch ...
*Your choice of HB DI xducer hooked to the "Switch Thru" leg of the HB TS3 switch...
Your options in s HB DI xducer are...
*XNT 9 DI T ... 200kHz 25°/ 455kHz 16°... (This is a transom mount)...
*XTM 9 WIDE DI 20 T ..200kHz 20°/ 83kHz 60°... (This is a TM mount)...
Now...the XTM 9 WIDE DI 20 T would have to have a custom transom mount bracket made to mount on the transom because it's a TM puck...but it may be worth it due to the versatility of the 200kHz 20°/ 83kHz 60° to be used in this setup...plus any future experimental setups that would require the 200kHz 20°/ 83kHz 60°...
You would have to decide if you want simple...(buy the XNT 9 DI T ...plug it in and go fishing)...
Or a little extra setup time...(buy the XTM 9 WIDE DI 20 T ...make a transom bracket..plug it in and go fishing)...
Either way...the only added cost at this point is just the DI xducer...because you already have the other needed parts to run HDSI for SI/2d (idle speed and high speed)...and dedicated DI thru your HB SI unit...
Rickie
Another thought is to buy the XTM 9 WIDE DI 20 T and mount it to your TM ...that's where you'd probably use the DI anyway...
Then you would have ...
*HDSI - SI/XNT 9 20 - 2d ...on the transom....(you could still use the "DI from SI" feature of the SI unit here)...
*XTM 9 WIDE DI 20 T ... DI/2d on the TM...
*HB TS3 switch to easily switch between the 2 ...
Rickie
When i read this it sounds complicated but i no that really its very simple setupQuote:
Originally Posted by rnvinc
The wires in my boat are going to look like the back of my TV set.
Now that's funny...Quote:
Originally Posted by gotta_fish
:ThumbsUp
Rickie