Getting Better?you Tell Me..."

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This is what Ive been working on since I finished up swap
#8 jigs"...Feathers are my new obsession since marabou"
Feathers provided by from Black Crow"Concept inspired by "Jungle Jim's duck jigs"All comments welcome !
"Thank you
Enjoy"
Rob/grubfarmer

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This is what Ive been working on since I finished up swap
#8 jigs"...Feathers are my new obsession since marabou"
Feathers provided by from Black Crow"Concept inspired by "Jungle Jim's duck jigs"All comments welcome !
"Thank you
Enjoy"
Rob/grubfarmer

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Better watch them obessions or you will have my type problem and it's pretty bad, LOL!

Okay here is what I see and you can take this and a dime to the bank and have a dime, LOL!

That last one has too many things going on. I wouldn't put palmered hackle on and then side feather over that. One or the other is way enough. Also can't see well enough what is under. Really I feel it would be better without the side feathers as then you can see what you have underneath it all.

Maybe in place of palmered hackle you could do a collar with hackle?

Anyway just keep trying and find what you like best and the fish like and then you have something. Sometime simple is better.

Skip

;)Thanks Skip"I know Non of these pics do any of these jigs any justice"lol"I see what your sayin bout the over kill on the mallard hen feathers over the Palmered hackle"But thats what comes out when i get bored"lol"Working on some weaves, but"be a long time for i show any of them"he"he" Nothing like fish4alls"yet"!Gett'n there though:D
grubs"

The weave/crochet will come along with a little practice, will be a good idea to keep a record though of even the worst ones. I wish I did to see what I did and keep track of my progress.

I like most of them, really like the bottom one and third one. I have always liked palmered hackle tying and need to do more of it myself.

As far as critique, I agree that feather over palmer is a little much and a hackle collar would really make those feather pattern full without being too busy in one area. I think the tie off is too large and takes away from some of them but that is just my preference. Might be a good fish catcher that way. The top picture, the one with the side winds looks good but don't worry about tying chenille over it. It will look better once you get them tied in right at the head. It takes a little finesse to get it right but strip a little of the feather that is gonna be tied in and try to match them as far as the same bend and side of feather that is up. Getting them matched up will help with a proper fall and not a whirl wind action that might give it an unnatural action.

Thanks for the input skip"Very much appreciated"I never thought of the balance issues as far as fall and retrieve";)

Grubs,Ya gotta think like a fish whe ya are tying.hehe
I got to learn how to git them hackle to tie around the chenelle.Don't know how.:confused:
They are nice jigs,,,
mikeb

I like them the colors you put together look great i do agree with skip that a couple may have to much(maybe just feathers or hackle) but still think they will put the fish in the boat:):) and hey I would'nt know anything about the feathers or hackle still need to learn how do do it. But hopefully they will look similar to yours.

JJ

Grub !YOU got it going on like a bucket full of chicken Bones! Dog Man You Go!

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Grubs,Ya gotta think like a fish whe ya are tying.hehe
I got to learn how to git them hackle to tie around the chenelle.Don't know how.:confused:
They are nice jigs,,,
mikeb

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Try you tube palmered hackle tying"start w/ the narrow tip of the hackle at the tail,tie it on" then your chenille then wrap chenille as usual,then spiral wrap or barber poll your hackle back to the head and tie it in" best i can explane right now buddy"Got loopy ,happy pills work'n on my head from my tooth ache"he"he" But try u tube" use palmered hackle fy tying as key words:D
Just noticed your signature there at the bottom" as your tends to change from time to time"lol"My mom caught a 5lbs.3oz. Hard head when i was 13yrs.old off Rudy's Inlet In Virginia Beach VA.When we lived there in 78'She caught it on a on a shiner while we were fishing Flounders" She got a citation"And it just fell under the state record"by 2 oz."That was I nice memory"Of child hood for me"My mom loved to fish god rest her sole"Thank you Mike" You should see your custom chenille Tomorrow bud"Or Sat. at the latest";)
grubs"

You are very Welcome,Rob.
Keep them memories close to ya heart.:)
mikeb

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Grubs,Ya gotta think like a fish whe ya are tying.hehe
I got to learn how to git them hackle to tie around the chenelle.Don't know how.:confused:
They are nice jigs,,,
mikeb

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"Try you tube Mike" But maybe i can help for tonight" Start by tying in your narrow end of the hackle so that the widest end lays across the back of your hook shank"widest end above the head of your jig head then tie in the chenille ,wrap and tie it off"then just barber poll your chenille back to the head of the jig tie it off you should get close enough to give ya an idea what i mean"But try palmered hackle fly tying as key words for "you tube"they are much more informative for ya buddy"I got the happy pills work'n on my head from my toof ache tonight"he"he" Look for your new custom chenille in the mail Tomorrow Or Sat. at the very latest Chief:D"Til then Tight Lines buddy

Flat Fish"
Yeah guess I'm The bone w/ the most"he"he"Thanks buddy"
If it wasn't for guys like You",Fish4all,Jungle Jim"Atticafish,Jigman",TntjigmanScoremaster,Mikeb. ",Aw,Skip",Black Crow" I couldn't do half as good as I do" Thanks Guys"Your the best!I cant wait to get to my pc. To see whats going on w/ you guy's"
I'd hate to look for this comrodary anywhere else"...;)
Rob/grubs"

You are getting better,Grubs.Quality hackle makes a big difference when you wrap those buggers.Get a good grizzly neck and you'll notice a big difference in the way it wraps.Lot's of good advice already been given.Keep it up!!!!!!!!!!

Shoot Grubby if you want to tie one up that looks like Christmas Easter and Mardi Gras wrapped around the Forth of July then crank up the volume rip off the knobs and have at it. You only gonna dance in this shindig one time make it a shooooooooooow to remember. Might be there is a giant crappie down there what can't see too good and he been waitin on that light show for years just so he could eat it up. He might jus weigh in bout 7-8 lbs and yo mama would be beamin down and sayin to all them other angels up there, "Thats my boy right there. See what a barn door slab he done drug up with the "light show jig" he made right by his self. I'm so proud I might pop"....you don't know it till you throw it.....so jus go fo it..........brim

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Shoot Grubby if you want to tie one up that looks like Christmas Easter and Mardi Gras wrapped around the Forth of July then crank up the volume rip off the knobs and have at it. You only gonna dance in this shindig one time make it a shooooooooooow to remember. Might be there is a giant crappie down there what can't see too good and he been waitin on that light show for years just so he could eat it up. He might jus weigh in bout 7-8 lbs and yo mama would be beamin down and sayin to all them other angels up there, "Thats my boy right there. See what a barn door slab he done drug up with the "light show jig" he made right by his self. I'm so proud I might pop"....you don't know it till you throw it.....so jus go fo it..........brim

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YOUR TOO MUCH MY FRIEND""LOL"YOU'VE GOT MY ENTIRE HOUSE HOLD ROLLING RIGHT THIS MIN...!THANKS FOR THE INPUT THERE BRIMSY"LOL"THAT WAS COOL MY TIGHT LINED LIL FRECKLE LOVING BUDDY;)

Dang I must have missed this thread earlier. Johnny Come Lately as usual :D.

Yeah I'd say there is a lot going on with your jigs. Lot of materials and lots of colors, but that's your style man. All of your jigs that I have seen use a lot of different types of materials and are of very different styles and I don't think that is a bad thing at all. You have introduced me personally to patterns, materials, and sources of materials that I would have otherwise not cosidered (cat toys :D:D).

As far as using a lot of materials goes on jigs, under water, particularly if fished steady under a bobber, the materials tend to loosen up and spread out from each other. You never know if you got a good idea until you try it out. That was one thing that I liked about the Devil's Ridin Horses you submitted to a previous swap. That was one of the craziest jigs I had seen in a while, but the gills like it and they are in my jig box today and are going back in the water tomorrow.

All that to say, I like those jigs. My favorite ones are the one with the green head and the one with the Suzy feathers. And if they were mixed in a tall heap of other jigs I could point each of them out as Grubfarmers ;).

Good ties in my opinion.

Grub

I've probably asked this before but are those apsirin head jigs???

Fatman

LOL"YOUR NOT THE ONLY ONE BUD"NO"BUT CLOSE THEY ARE CUSTOM BUTTON HEAD JIGS"FROM A GREAT,AND HONORABLE PATRON OF THE ARTS"WHO HAS TOLD ME HE TIRES OF POURING THEM BECAUSE HE HAS TO POUR SEVERAL SIZES AT A TIME TO PUT SO MANY TOGETHER FOR ONE OF A CHOSEN SIZE...:rolleyes:YALL KNOW'EM,YALL LOVE'M"THEY ARE THE: SUPEREXPERTCALAFRAGELISTICEXPIALADOSHISHISHT"he"he "
Jungle Jim Jigs"Don't tell'em I told ya"!;)

GREAT AIN'T THEY?I'd walk on my hands to MO. for 100ct. of them I Swear to Gd!:eek:Please dont ask me for what I have left"I'm like a dog w/ the last bone wehen it comes to these babies"!!!:mad:Grrrrr