Hook set practice

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05-26-2009, 10:37 PM
rugsrme

Hook set practice

I think what may have helped me catch more fish this weekend may be because I have been practicing my hook set.
The couple days before, I was fishing at Blackburn lake with my long poles, reaching and dipping in front of logs and under trees. I was catching blue gills left and right and I was getting really in tune to the little "taps" and was improving my reaction setting the hook. I had a problem with that last weekend at camp, I would feel the taps but wasn't reacting soon enough to set the hook.
I could be imagining things, but I think it really helped.
What do you think? Am I just smokin' something?
05-26-2009, 11:25 PM
bwillaub

As long as you believe it, that's all that matters.:D:rolleyes:

JK. Sounds reasonable to me. Practice makes perfect in everything.
05-26-2009, 11:37 PM
Jigging15

It can of hurt anything.
05-27-2009, 05:51 AM
bugman

In my eyes that is one of the main things that seperates good crappie fishermen from just average ones,i've noticed that the folks who are just learning to crappie fish just kinda start to reel when they have a bite instead of set the hook and it costs them most every time,keep up the practice Quinn you're on the right track..........and don't be afraid to pop em;)
05-27-2009, 06:47 AM
DMW1960

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Originally Posted by bugman

In my eyes that is one of the main things that seperates good crappie fishermen from just average ones,i've noticed that the folks who are just learning to crappie fish just kinda start to reel when they have a bite instead of set the hook and it costs them most every time,keep up the practice Quinn you're on the right track..........and don't be afraid to pop em;)

I AGREE WITH BUGMAN, BUT KNOWING HOW HARD TO SET THE HOOK IS ALSO A LEARNED ART TOO. THEY DON'T CALL CRAPPIE, PAPER MOUTHS FOR NOTHING. THERE IS A FINE LINE IN GETTING A GOOD HOOK SET AND TEARING THE HOOK RIGHT OUT OF THEIR MOUTHS. QUINN SOMETIMES I END UP CUTTING A LITTLE OFF THE TAILS OF 2 INCH SKIRTS. BUT THEY AGAIN I USE NUMBER 4 HOOKS. THATS THE REASON I HAVE CLIPPERS ON MY FISH COUNTER AROUND MY NECK. I KNOW I LOOK LIKE ONE OF THOSE TROUT GUYS.
05-27-2009, 07:20 AM
rugsrme

I learned to trim the tails off of the tails in some circumstances from a guy up here fishing this dock in Marshall. In the winter the fish would just mouth the tails and it was very hard to hook them otherwise.
05-27-2009, 07:41 AM
Jigging15

I am sure Bugman will agree with me on this because I have seen him in action. 10 ft rod you can not set the hook hard enough. If a 9 inch fish doesn't come out of the water from 10ft down set the hook harder the next time.
05-27-2009, 08:14 AM
Joedog

Isn't it true that the timing of the hookset is also important in certain instances? Otherwise, what's the "tic tic tugg" all about? I thought that there are some patterns where patience prevails.
05-27-2009, 08:53 AM
bwillaub

The "tic tic" is a crappie just tail swatting a minnow or jig to get it away from it's tree.
The "tug" is a pissed off crappie finally deciding to move the bait. At least that is the way it was described to me by the "MASTER".
05-27-2009, 10:13 AM
Joedog

I guess that's my point...that (depending on how their biting) you can't just be setting the hook the very first time you feel a bump?
05-27-2009, 02:29 PM
Pole Bender

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Originally Posted by Jigging15

I am sure Bugman will agree with me on this because I have seen him in action. 10 ft rod you can not set the hook hard enough. If a 9 inch fish doesn't come out of the water from 10ft down set the hook harder the next time.

That reminds me of this and I am still laughing! I had an 8 incher fly out of the water and over the boat last Sunday. My daughter watching this sets the hook on 2 with my 10ft rod and both come out of the water 6-8 inches and fall off.
05-27-2009, 02:37 PM
Jigging15

Got to keep the line tight when they are swimming and when they are flying or they will spit it out. I seen a guy last year bass fishing in the BFL set the hook with a 1/2 oz jig two different times. Both times had 11 or 12 inch fish fly all the way over the boat and both still hooked good enough to reel them in.
05-27-2009, 08:53 PM
Mr Zip

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Originally Posted by Jigging15

I am sure Bugman will agree with me on this because I have seen him in action. 10 ft rod you can not set the hook hard enough. If a 9 inch fish doesn't come out of the water from 10ft down set the hook harder the next time.

Dont ya know it true !!!!:D
05-27-2009, 09:09 PM
rugsrme

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Originally Posted by Joedog

Isn't it true that the timing of the hookset is also important in certain instances? Otherwise, what's the "tic tic tugg" all about? I thought that there are some patterns where patience prevails.

We're not talking about Nojoes:D we mean fish brother!!!
05-27-2009, 09:23 PM
KCMO CRAPPIESLAYER

i don't know iv'e heard it both way's...i have read a TON of article's from all the different pro's that say you can't set the hook hard enough. they claim in their article's they have never lost a crappie cuz of too hard of a hookset. i'm like bug's i set the hook like it was a bass, but that being said that is when they are thumping it...sometime's it's more of a finesse fishing and sometime's it's what i call full contact crappie fishing:cool::eek: i just adapt to the bite, however they want it, however i can get the hook set in their mouth, that's what i work with and that's why i'm the CRAPPIESLAYER:rolleyes::D;) now if you will excuse me i gotta go deflate my head;)
05-27-2009, 09:52 PM
DMW1960

What About When They Are Coming Up?

I Got Into A Couple Of Deals Last Friday At Bucksaw That Drove Me Nuts! Wife Had The Same Thing Happen To Her With A Minnow On. It Seemed The Crappie Were Bringing My Jigs Up As I Was Dropping Them Down. Wife And I Also Had It Happen On Minnow Poles. We Had Them Setting Down On The Boat And The Next Thing We Knew There Was Slack In The Line, Sometimes As Much As 2 Foot.

What Should I Do In A Case Like This? We Caught The Fish Each Time And They Were Good Fish. I Guess What I Am Asking When A Fish Is Bringing Your Bait Up What Is That A Sign Of?
05-27-2009, 10:12 PM
rugsrme

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Originally Posted by DMW1960

I Got Into A Couple Of Deals Last Friday At Bucksaw That Drove Me Nuts! Wife Had The Same Thing Happen To Her With A Minnow On. It Seemed The Crappie Were Bringing My Jigs Up As I Was Dropping Them Down. Wife And I Also Had It Happen On Minnow Poles. We Had Them Setting Down On The Boat And The Next Thing We Knew There Was Slack In The Line, Sometimes As Much As 2 Foot.

What Should I Do In A Case Like This? We Caught The Fish Each Time And They Were Good Fish. I Guess What I Am Asking When A Fish Is Bringing Your Bait Up What Is That A Sign Of?

Thats a sign that the fish has it in its mouth!
SET THE HOOK!!
Hook sets are free. I have learned bass fishing and it seems to be the same with crappie fishing if you have any sudden slack in your line, or your jig is dropping and it stops falling, set the hook.
05-27-2009, 10:18 PM
FROSTY

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Originally Posted by DMW1960

I Guess What I Am Asking When A Fish Is Bringing Your Bait Up What Is That A Sign Of?

Don't know for sure.....Could be spoiled bait....
Or maybe he just wants to talk....
Or could be in a trance from Beagle's singing...:D:D
05-27-2009, 10:20 PM
rlsiv

DMW,
I catch quite a few crappie when the bite is soft like this by letting out a bunch of line (7-8') at a time and letting it spool on top of the water... then my single split shot with a minnow veeeerrrry slowly pull the line down with them - and if it stops after (for example) about 8', and I know I'm in 40' of water, I know its either in a fish's mouth OR my rig is sitting on top of some cover. Either way, I'll quickly take up the extra slack and give a little hook-set after feeling for tension.

Usually only works well when it isn't too breezy.

I've also fished with a slip bobber and seen it start to move ever-so-slowly to one side or the other but NOT bobbing downward. Symptomatic of the same thing. Take up the slack and give a hook set.
05-28-2009, 01:50 AM
centerdriver

Flying fish.

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Originally Posted by Jigging15

I am sure Bugman will agree with me on this because I have seen him in action. 10 ft rod you can not set the hook hard enough. If a 9 inch fish doesn't come out of the water from 10ft down set the hook harder the next time.

Sounds like flying crappie to me. Grandpa just snapped his wrist to give about a 6" jerk. He is the master that taught me to deal with the wiley crappie, no since going agin his teachin..we ate fish at least twice a week.
Dusty
05-28-2009, 04:57 AM
old fuzzy

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Originally Posted by FROSTY

Don't know for sure.....Could be spoiled bait....
Or maybe he just wants to talk....
Or could be in a trance from Beagle's singing...:D:D

you got that right Frosty,,,,,just a thought but was there any grey poupon in the boat,,,,:o
05-28-2009, 09:49 PM
DMW1960

Quote:

Originally Posted by FROSTY

Don't know for sure.....Could be spoiled bait....
Or maybe he just wants to talk....
Or could be in a trance from Beagle's singing...:D:D

I WAS IN A COVE THAT OSS NORMALLY WORKS, I TRIED A BLK AND CHART AND A CRAPPIE CAME TO THE TOP OF THE WATER BY THE BOAT. HE HAD A SIGN THAT SAID ONLY OSS CAN USE BLK AND CHART!
05-28-2009, 09:50 PM
DMW1960

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Originally Posted by old fuzzy

you got that right Frosty,,,,,just a thought but was there any grey poupon in the boat,,,,:o

NOPE JUST SOME SANDWICHES THE WIFE MADE! I DON'T DO THE GREY POUPON!
05-28-2009, 09:55 PM
DMW1960

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Originally Posted by rlsiv

DMW,
I catch quite a few crappie when the bite is soft like this by letting out a bunch of line (7-8') at a time and letting it spool on top of the water... then my single split shot with a minnow veeeerrrry slowly pull the line down with them - and if it stops after (for example) about 8', and I know I'm in 40' of water, I know its either in a fish's mouth OR my rig is sitting on top of some cover. Either way, I'll quickly take up the extra slack and give a little hook-set after feeling for tension.

Usually only works well when it isn't too breezy.

I've also fished with a slip bobber and seen it start to move ever-so-slowly to one side or the other but NOT bobbing downward. Symptomatic of the same thing. Take up the slack and give a hook set.

WELL I KNOW TO SET THE HOOK GUYS BUT WHAT I WAS WONDERING IS IF THE FISH ARE DOING THAT WHAT DOES IT MEAN. I GUESS I NEED TO CALL MY UNCLE WHO LIVES UP ON TRUMAN. HE IS ONE OF THOSE GUYS WHO GOES ALOT ON THE OLD TYPE SIGNS. IF THE FISH ARE DOING THIS OR THAT THEN ITS GOING TO RAIN OR FLOOD. THE STUFF HE COMES UP WITH IS KIND OF WEIRD BUT HE IS USUALLY CORRECT.
05-29-2009, 01:03 PM
Kit Papermouth

Bugs exceeded the shock capacity of his knots two times when we were fishing. Good line makes all the difference.

I've said it before Bugs and TAB are the two fishermen that when they set the hook the tip of the rod breaks the sound barrier.

I agree sometime you have to have patience if they are ticking without taking. After about 20 misses, then try waiting for pressure before setting the hook.

If they are pouncing the bait, then rip some lips.

G.