OK WMA Maps, Coordinates unconfirmed

Thanks to new board member isnms, ( you should really choose a name, tough to remember yours and jrfwmf) for sending us the Great link to Oklahoma Wildlife Managment Topo Maps. The site states the coordinates that I was looking at were unconfirmed, but, it should be close enough to pinpoint hotspots to those visiting the forum. I don't have a GPS yet, but hope to someday. Now, there are those fisherman out there that dare not ever share a spot. I have no problem with it, as everytime I clean the area out of the keepers, more appear by next trip. It's just like magic. Areas of Talala Creek that I was destroying the 2-3lb fish during spawn, would have a new fish in place by the time I was ready to "make the rounds again". If I would have been fishing the CAST Championship, I might have won with the fish I caught by myself that day.
Anyway, for those of you who DO have a GPS on their boat, I would be more than happy to show you a few places I frequent on Oologah. I had experienced a 6 week lull without a single keeper, then, wham, started finding hot spots that still are fairly consistent.
Reaper

http://maps.scigis.com/odwc/MapFrame.asp

I'm not good at names. If I'd have had a third kid, I'd have named him/her Three.
Hard time with passwords too.

I sent you a PM, hope you don't mind. I took you a little deeper into the site than I intended. Back up a notch after you've investigated to see prior years and tell me if this is something worthwhile.

haha, yeah, my user name doesn't make anything you can pronounce. it's my title at work - Information Systems Network Management Specialist -

Edited this post with the new url.

Digital Wildlife Management Areas Atlas
http://www.wildlifedepartment.com/wmas2.htm

on the site: http://fishlab.ou.edu/odwcims/ -
once you zoom into the lake you're interested in, you can use the tools on the right to show different views.
use:
Recreational Layers - to show Lakes with fish data and ODWC fish attractors
Imagery - to show Aerial photos(1995), Color aerial photos(2003), USGS Quads and 3D Quads (the quads are topo including lake body)
there are other features on the right
http://www.wildlifedepartment.com/wmas4.htm

Tool bar on the left: used for zooming in and out. and I like
http://www.wildlifedepartment.com/wm...ut_What_the_Sy

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Select by Rectangle This tool allows you define an area and examine all the features of the active layer within that area. With the select by rectangle tool active, draw a rectangle on the map and a small window will appear displaying all the individual items within the rectangle you drew. Identifies them by highlighting in yellow.

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http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j1...rd3Drelief.jpg

What great info! Thanks so much again for teaching us. I bet if others in the main forum saw this, they would be jealous.
The aerial picture of Talala Creek on Oologah is alot clearer than most of the other lake pictures. You can actually see runs of humps in an area that I thought was too shallow. It also shows a brushpile in the same area. I printed it out, and will check it out my next trip.
The link you just posted about the help section is just great. What an excellent tool for anyone who ventures outdoors to use.
Reaper

Thanks for the kind words. I was very excited too when I found it on the wildlifedepartment web site. And the best part, it's FREE :)
I have yet to see all that it can do. I've only looked at Draper and Thunderbird since they are the closest to me.

Number 4 in the above map was very productive Sunday. The three of us must have kept over 90, caught many more but put back the smallest ones.
I know I cleaned 45 myself.

What lake is that?

I believe it is Thunderbird. Check the purple print on right hand side behind Hog Creek label.

One could locate a Geographic Name Server and search for Hog Creek in Oklahoma and if listed check out its location(s) to see if in vicinity of Thunderbird.

I believe it is Thunderbird. Check the purple print on right hand side behind Hog Creek label.

One could locate a Geographic Name Server and search for Hog Creek in Oklahoma and if listed check out its location(s) to see if in vicinity of Thunderbird.


Feature Name
ID
Class
County
State
Latitude
Longitude
Map
Ele(Ft)
BGN
Entry Date

Hog Creek
1093819
Stream
Pottawatomie
OK
345624N
0970201W
Wanette
945
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18-DEC-1979

Hog Creek
1093821
Stream
Sequoyah
OK
352641N
0944559W
Sallisaw
469
-
18-DEC-1979

Hog Creek
1093815
Stream
Latimer
OK
345452N
0950246W
Red Oak
522
-
18-DEC-1979

Hog Creek
1093818
Stream
Pushmataha
OK
341007N
0952233W
Rattan
436
-
18-DEC-1979

Hog Creek
1093816
Stream
Grady
OK
345641N
0975717W
Ninnekah
1089
-
18-DEC-1979

Hog Creek
1093823
Stream
Cleveland
OK
351336N
0971328W
Little Axe
1033
-
18-DEC-1979

Hog Creek
1093817
Stream
Beaver
OK
365153N
1000101W
Gate
2136
-
18-DEC-1979

Hog Creek
1093822
Stream
Ellis
OK
360224N
0995438W
Arnett SW
2172
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18-DEC-1979

Hog Creek
1093820
Stream
Caddo
OK
350251N
0981842W
Anadarko West
1197
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18-DEC-1979


That's the counties and quad map names if any are close to Thunderbird.

Lake Thunderbird is on the Little Ax Quad in Cleveland County from same server.

Lake Thunderbird
1100127
Reservoir
Cleveland
OK
351315N
0971309W
Little Axe
994
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01-JUN-1990

Lake Thunderbird
1751091
Reservoir
Cleveland
OK
351300N
0971301W
Little Axe
1001
-
10-JUL-1997

Yes it is Thunderbird.


It was a very fun day :)

I didn't look at the map close enough, my fault.

On my home computer, the whole pix never did load. Stopped at the bottom of the chart. Not as clear either. My stuff is getting a bit dated.

But you are right, it certainly is marked well enough from this different point of view.
Sort of makes the long way around look silly.

It's hosted on a server with a cable modem and it did have a couple of power outages yesterday.
Remember, on the Wildlife Department site you can get any lake, zoom into or out to any level you want.
I made that image from a print screen and pasted the text from the fish location results, to give a sample.

I am helping the Oologah district tommorrow Cut/Tie/ drop off brush. Looks as if BR might join me. They are giving door prizes as well. I think they also take GPS reading of the brush and it's made public. If interested, call 918-443-2250 and register your spot. They are going to provide food and drink, as well as door prizes.

What a great tool for you guys in Oklahoma. Glad to see your luck over there is changing since last Saturday in Norman.

TCU?

LOL @ the TCU?? heh, looks as if OU in for a long, long year. Hell, Tulsa might sneak up on them this weekend.

Every year seems to be a long year for us HOG fans.

Do you ever fish Lake Okemah reaper? My wifes family has a house on the lake and they have told me that it was named one of the best big bass lakes in Oklahoma. They also told me that they saw guys killing the crappie by there boat dock. I will end up fishing the lake before long so just wondered if you could provide any input?

I've never even heard of it. It must be a local water supply lake.

I was wondering when he said big bass and Okemah, about Okmulgee and Dripping Springs Lakes

love that site, fish copan since the day they started flooding it ran trot lines down the river befor that thought i knew that aera BUT a hour with that map 4.00 wirth printing paper i now have one helluva map of copan, hell iam 64 thought id seen most of everything but that was a great site thank you sam

updates post#3 with new url.

Great to see you're still with us! Thanks!

which ramp is best to use at thunderbird?

Fisherman's Point is the only ramp I know of that's still in the water. The lake office said all 3 on the N side of the lake were open, but I went to Denver Corner and the boat never touched the water. All 6 tires were in the water, but I don't think I even got the bottom of the truck wet.

thanks DC

Thanks Reaper. I've been following the tread about organizing a meet. Hope it comes together. My boat motor is out of commission right now, so I may just be a tag along ;) unless I get it fixed by then.

Crappie Kid: We should meet up sometime. I'm in Moore too. I'd like to try some night stalking sometime. I've never been.

Do these maps still exist? None of the links work.

Found them. Please disregard


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Found them. Please disregard

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Did you get them to work? I can't find them anywhere.

I found this -- not sure if it's what you were looking for. ArcGIS Web Application

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Did you get them to work? I can't find them anywhere.

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Yes, they are on the OWC web page. If you go to the lakes page it is at the top under fish attractor sites. I will post a link in the next week or so if you can’t find them.


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Dang, talk about bringing a post back from the dead! Most Corp brushpiles on their maps, Coords, etc, have been washed out for years now. I'd suggest a decent Down/side scan unit and research the areas you want to fish. I've got SO many waypoints, 80% are worthless.

ArcGIS Web Application

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Dang, talk about bringing a post back from the dead! Most Corp brushpiles on their maps, Coords, etc, have been washed out for years now. I'd suggest a decent Down/side scan unit and research the areas you want to fish. I've got SO many waypoints, 80% are worthless.

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Yeah he dig deep for this. Lol

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Dang, talk about bringing a post back from the dead! Most Corp brushpiles on their maps, Coords, etc, have been washed out for years now. I'd suggest a decent Down/side scan unit and research the areas you want to fish. I've got SO many waypoints, 80% are worthless.

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I have a decent down scan and have found a ton of spots that are near a lot of the Corp waypoints. That being said, almost all of the good spots are not public.

I have scoured this forum for weeks now just trying to gather as much info as possible. I am trying to take the same approach to crappie fishing as I have deer hunting, gather as much info as possible whenever possible. Nothing is better than time spent In the woods or on the water though.


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Not sure what you mean by this statement. If they're on a Corp lake, they're all public. You said you had a down scan but didn't mention if you had a side scan. If you do, use it. Set it to about 40-50' each side. If you see anything that shows up that might look worthy of a closer look, make note of how far it is from you, turn around and run over it with your downscan. Most folks with Sidescan do not utilize it and they're missing a lot of excellent fishing spots. I'll use Google maps in Sattelite view to scope out a new body of water. Good luck!

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Not sure what you mean by this statement. If they're on a Corp lake, they're all public. You said you had a down scan but didn't mention if you had a side scan. If you do, use it. Set it to about 40-50' each side. If you see anything that shows up that might look worthy of a closer look, make note of how far it is from you, turn around and run over it with your downscan. Most folks with Sidescan do not utilize it and they're missing a lot of excellent fishing spots. I'll use Google maps in Sattelite view to scope out a new body of water. Good luck!

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I’m aware all Corp brushpiles or waypoints for whatever structure they have placed. I have found a lot of good “stuff” near or in the vicinity of those waypoints but rarely at the point itself. Of those spots I have found, they are not public bc I haven’t made them public. Not saying I found a spot nobody else has found. Just saying that the spots I have found do not have a coordinate on the OWC website.

I found most of them by going out without rods and tackle and just cruising around. I used the method you suggested. Find a piece with down scan then cruise back to investigate the whole structure with sidescan.


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Nothing is better than time spent In the woods or on the water though.
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You nailed it!! It took me a few years to find a good deer hunting spot. Was a lot of work with a little luck as well.

I use my Hummingbird Lakemaster mapping and the online Navionics maps of Oologah to scout for new spots.

Hint:
Trolling with crankbaits along the bluffs at Spencer Creek has produced some of the biggest crappie I have ever caught. Earlier in the morning the better.

Sidescan is the most underused method while looking for spots. I use it a lot. Saves lot's of time.

Bill