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Who does some airbrushing??
Can I mix up powder coat paint with thinner and use a airbrush to paint my blades. Thinking about getting one. After heating up 1500 with a heat gun and them dipping them in the powder paint one at a time:eek:,,,I figure there has to be a better way
1500...... There are two ways to speed it up. The first would be get an electrostatic gun, build a small paint booth and all that jazz, would be rather expensive.
The other way is to find nice sized fluid bed so you can heat 100-500 blades at the same time, take them out of the oven and dip them all at once.
CS Coatings - Standard Fluid Bed
If you are talking about doing detail stuff on them, I don't know of an easier way to do it. Maybe the powder paint water stuff but I don't know if that will work in an air brush.
High temp tape might work but it would be a lot of work cutting out all the shapes unless you could find them pre cut.
Still thinking airbrushing would be the fastest way. Hang them on a rod and spray away
Do not attempt to thin powder paint and use it in an airbrush, two totally different paints I think and you'll ruin the airbrush, besides even if you could I wouldn't know where to begin to tell you how far to thin it out and with what to use to thin it. I used to work as a powder painter for a fork truck company... if you had a PP company in your area maybe talk to them, and they may just charge ya a small fee to run your line, might be worth a shot if you have that kind of quantity... otherwise building a powder paint system is too cost intrusive. might look into a fluid bed like fish_4_all mentioned.
I have a fluid bed. I use it for jig heads. My cups are 3 in PVC. But to build a bigger one and some kind of rack to hold all the hooks might be a real pain. Right now I have one of those jig clamps from CS Coatings. That works great. Used to hang them on a oven rack but when you heat them up the solder will flow down and cover the eye and the hook will turn and not be straight. So they have to stand almost straight up or at least at a angle so the solder and the paint will drip the other way towards the hook. To heat them all up in the oven and then hold that rack upside down to dip the spoons,,,the fluid bed would have to be long 22 inches long and a 1 in wide. Thats why it would be easier to shoot them with a airbrush. Two sweeps and they would be painted
Laser you think about using a different type of paint that can be air brushed on instead of the PP your using? For the only kind that I have heard that you can use through an airbrush is that water base that was posted on here about a month or so ago cannot recall who started that post but if you do a search should be easy to find.
Here is another option you can go with believe it runs about $60-$65 for the kit.
Powder Spray Gun
Our all new Powder Spray Gun (PSG) now allows you to paint all those formerly hard to dip items such as blades, spoons, spinners or anything else metal, without the need for expensive electrostatic spraying equipment or spray booths. Spoons can be painted without “wrap-around” and Pro-Flake Glitter colors can be added with beautifully even coverage. Our PSG resembles an airbrush with a 4 oz. jar attached and comes complete with gun, air hose and 4 interchangeable jars and lids. Since the PSG requires very little air (5–8 psi at 1 cfm), even the smallest compressors will operate it.
Instructions for Use
Warm the part to be painted in a preheated oven at 350–400° F for approximately 5 minutes. A small propane torch can also be used by holding the part with a needle nose pliers or by hanging on a fine wire and moving back and forth over the flame for a few seconds. Immediately after heating, hold or hang part sideways to allow spraying in a horizontal direction. Hold gun tip 4–6 inches from metal surface and spray in a sweeping motion.
The powder will adhere immediately and flow into a smooth finish. If metal has cooled to the point where the powder does not flow out completely, return piece to oven or wave the back side of piece over a torch flame until desired effect is achieved. More paint can be added as necessary. For maximum durability, cure painted part by hanging it in an oven for 15 minutes at 350° F.
Unused powder can be stored in covered jars. To change colors, simply blow out plastic tube and attach a new jar. Fill jars only half full for best results. To eliminate dust, work in front of an open cardboard box lying on one side with a vacuum hose inserted into a hole cut in the bottom side. The airflow created by the vacuum will keep powder in the box.
http://www.csipaint.com/images/produ...-spray-gun.jpg
Where did you find this??? Looks like I could use my powderpaint in it
That is what it is made for here is the link
CS Coatings - Powder Spray Gun
BARLOWS sells that powder paint airbrushing equipment as well ....brimQuote:
Originally Posted by laserdoc
CSI used to have racks to use with their fluid beds but I don't see them anymore. They held 100-250 jigs or blades for dipping.
I see the spray option now, didn't see if before, sorry about that.
Hanging the blades is gonna work better I think. Paper clips placed in those jig holders so you can hang them upside down would work wonder. I have used paper clips for years to paint my blades although I am still painting one at a time.
Still remember to build a small paint box so you don't have powder paint repainting everything where you are working. Let us know how it works if you go with the airbrush option. It would save me a ton of time to painting my spinner bodies and blades.
The box will also help you recover your powder paint excess instead of throwing it away. On another forum they ones using even the electrostatic gun were talking about a lot of waste and it using a lot more powder than it should.
I believe that this is a very good post and I thought I would bring it back out into the open for you guys to read again has lots of good information in it.
I haven't tried it yet but there is something that you are supposed to be able mix it together with you powder paint and use it in a normal spray gun. Powder Water
I have used the powder airbrush and I am not that keen on it. The system generates A LOT of overspray. If you are OK with that, and if you want to collect it and recycle it, I guess that is OK. Columbia Coatings sells a substance called "Powder Water" that you can use to resuspend the powder paint and then use a REGULAR airbrush (Paasche VL I think is the one I have)- with the large diameter fittings (needle, cone, etc). You then need to air dry them (overnight, preferably) and heat them in an oven to set the paint. I have used this system (BTW, Trufer - sorry - I just saw your post above) and it works well.
One important point - after adding the powder paint to the Powder Water you need to mix it very well - I use a battery operated milk frother or latte mixer.
Pete
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Originally Posted by psilvers
Cool info Pete, guess Snake was right!
Oh BTW, you may not be able to mix Columbia's Powder Water with CSI powder paints. Check on that before you make a sizeable batch.
Crappiedoc - I see you are in Kansas - where? I am in Lawrence.
Pete
I'm stuck in the middle again, SalinaQuote:
Originally Posted by psilvers
I haven't tried Columbia yet, been considering it. I'm "helping" a commercial guy AGAIN. I did it a few years ago, only had to paint half of them. He's a static painter and sends me CSI by the pound, along with the hooks. Me, guess I'm old time, DIP, DIP. I've steered away from spraying, quite the investment. But this could be awesome, whats in the "water"? I know you can MEK CSI's powder and spray it, but then there's "solvents problems". Sounds intriguing.
I don't know what is in the "water" but I ain't drinking it! Actually the Powder Water does not dissolve the powder, it resuspends the powder. As far as the CSI stuff, I don't know about adding MEK. However, the stuff is flammable and volatile - so you would need to be VERY careful!
The other note about "Powder Water" is that, in my experience, it is pretty sprayable but not very brushable.
Pete
Thanks Pete, I'll check their website. Who knows maybe?
Good luck with it - let me know if I can be of any help.
Pete
Been looking at that for pp blade baits but gotta hold off for now