JJ MicroMaster Need Some Feedback

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05-02-2009, 05:59 PM
Doc Crappie

JJ MicroMaster Need Some Feedback

JJ

Trying some different things here on the micro as you know not that easy to work on but what you think man these 1/100 on a #12 are small

http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/v...o/DSC04115.jpg

Have a little flash coming off of this one with some small orange chenille for the body

http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/v...DSC04113-6.jpg

Same chenille for the body but place some marabou in for the tail, yes the tail rolled a little on me while getting it tight in place didnt see it right away but something different for a #12 hook

http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/v...DSC04114-3.jpg

Last one is kip tail hard to get the color to show in the picture it is a really dark purple almost black, as you can see had a hard time trimming up around the jig head.

http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/v...o/DSC04119.jpg

Was just playing around but really what do you think about the first attempts on these micro size jigs. I think I need a smaller pair of hands when doing these for you are really working on a limited amount of space. Check them out even tried to pull the tails and kip off not moving so i think I at least have that down. Give me a few more days at this and I think they will darn near as good as yours at least that is the goal as good as or better.
05-02-2009, 06:17 PM
grubfarmer67

i think they look ok Doc"on that last one" if you start your wrap around the neck down about a 1/16 of an inch then apply your material",you shouldn't need to trim it at all buddy"...
I can see the purple by the way on my monitor":)
05-02-2009, 06:24 PM
Doc Crappie

Grub Thanks I am just trying to find a magnifying glass for these buggers are hard for me to see. I get what you are saying on the black/purple start the neck and add the material after the neck has been started. Will give that a try and see if it hold the kip tail in palce as well when finished. Thanks
05-02-2009, 07:02 PM
Fatman

Doc

Looks good here!!!! You guys think a size 12 jig hook is small try a size 18 or 20 fly tying hook!!!! Thats small.

Fatman
05-02-2009, 07:09 PM
Doc Crappie

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Originally Posted by Fatman

Doc

Looks good here!!!! You guys think a size 12 jig hook is small try a size 18 or 20 fly tying hook!!!! Thats small.

Fatman

I am having a hard enough time just seeing the #12 to work on couldnt even imagine trying a #18 or #20 without a good magnifying glass to look through and it would have to be a bigg'in
05-02-2009, 07:13 PM
fish_4_all

Look good DC, maybe a little long on the tails but that is my preference.

I like the marabou tail one the best. It would catch fish here for sure.

Smallest I have ever tied was #24 scud. Didn't even think the fish could see them because I could barely see them to tie them. But the trout loved them. Might have to see if a panfish will too.
05-02-2009, 07:19 PM
Doc Crappie

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Originally Posted by fish_4_all

Look good DC, maybe a little long on the tails but that is my preference.

I like the marabou tail one the best. It would catch fish here for sure.

Smallest I have ever tied was #24 scud. Didn't even think the fish could see them because I could barely see them to tie them. But the trout loved them. Might have to see if a panfish will too.

Thanks Fish 4 All

Was just giving it a shot at these little gritters and I think you are right on the tails but still fine tuning what I am looking for here. Trying to get the marabou and hackle to work on these little jigs gonna take some time but I will get there sooner or later.
05-02-2009, 07:24 PM
fish_4_all

I know this doesn't make it easier but try palmering the marabou on for the tails. It will be a lot more secure. Just tie them down flat if you want to or wrap the chenille over them to reduce their flare.
05-02-2009, 07:34 PM
Doc Crappie

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Originally Posted by fish_4_all

I know this doesn't make it easier but try palmering the marabou on for the tails. It will be a lot more secure. Just tie them down flat if you want to or wrap the chenille over them to reduce their flare.

I am slowly working towards doing that not sure if I am there yet perhaps I will give it a try later tonight and see how it turns out. I know it will be allot more secure that way
05-02-2009, 09:21 PM
flatfish46

Doc . one of My favorite ty's on those little bugger's is to start My thread and carry it even to bthe hook point then put about 12 rap's to build a knot then back to the head I use My hackle plier's to hold the kip I hold it even with the front of the head dark towards the eye light on the bottom if you 2 tone it I olny pu 3 - 4 raps per color then I start towards the knot wraping the body pretty tight just short of breaking the thread I use the knot and tension to control the flare of My tail when it's flared even with the hook point I start back towards the head to flare the kip here ounce I have it like I like it I build up the body to a barrel shape whip it seal and trim I done real well on a black haed pink kip black or chartreuse thread if I get time I'll post one tomorrow.
05-02-2009, 10:33 PM
mikeb

Quote:

Originally Posted by fish_4_all

I know this doesn't make it easier but try palmering the marabou on for the tails. It will be a lot more secure. Just tie them down flat if you want to or wrap the chenille over them to reduce their flare.

Hey fish,
What does "palmering the marabou" mean:confused::confused:
Thanks,mikeb
05-02-2009, 10:38 PM
Baxter1

Nice lookin jigs.I haven't messed with size 12 hooks that much.
05-02-2009, 10:52 PM
Doc Crappie

Here are a few more with different body styles I kind of like the top right one where I spun some dubbing onto the thread should have put more but it was a learning experience next time i will know and the bottom right one looks pretty good also almost like a shade dart.

Let me know what one's you like out of these for I am trying to narrow this down the body styles and start tying some to try out here and see what kind of results I get.

http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/v...SC04112-10.jpg http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/v...DSC04113-7.jpg
05-02-2009, 11:17 PM
Jiggin_Joe

wow doc they look great you have more patience then me. I never thought of even trying chenille on those little buggers nice work!!

JJ
05-02-2009, 11:19 PM
fish_4_all

I like the top 3 on the left best. Especially like the tail on the top left.

Palmering marabou is the same technique as wrapping hackle. The marabou is wrapped around the shank instead of cut off and tied in.
05-02-2009, 11:21 PM
Doc Crappie

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Originally Posted by Jiggin_Joe

wow doc they look great you have more patience then me. I never thought of even trying chenille on those little buggers nice work!!

JJ

JJ

I think I am loosing my eye sight man they are tuff too work on, but I think I found something that may work pretty good. I will test it out more but i spun some dubbing on the thread and it made a pretty decent body sort of just didnt spin enough on. You know the old test and error well I sort of like the way it looked and you can run it right over the top of the kip. And being wrapped on the thread it is not coming off.
05-02-2009, 11:27 PM
Jiggin_Joe

that sounds like a great idea hurry with the pics:) i said you would need a magnifing glass lol
is that what the white one is?
JJ
05-02-2009, 11:41 PM
Jiggin_Joe

I think you are off to a great start the purple kip tail could be just a little bit shorter remember the reaso for such a small jig is to keep it tiny. and did you run the hair past the head before tying and then trim it? if so try and tie right next to head next time.

JJ
05-03-2009, 12:07 AM
Doc Crappie

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiggin_Joe

I think you are off to a great start the purple kip tail could be just a little bit shorter remember the reaso for such a small jig is to keep it tiny. and did you run the hair past the head before tying and then trim it? if so try and tie right next to head next time.

JJ

Right it should have ended at the end of the hook will remember that
05-03-2009, 04:56 AM
LedHed

Peacock hurl makes a real good body for UL jigs also.
05-03-2009, 09:19 AM
Doc Crappie

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Originally Posted by LedHed

Peacock hurl makes a real good body for UL jigs also.

havent tried any of this yet will add it to my list that i am building
05-03-2009, 08:05 PM
flatfish46

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1/100 hot/pink and char squirrel

Here's a pic of what I was trying to explain to you Doc this one is squirrel in chartreuse I cut the hair full length it gives Me something to hold onto while I ty then I trim the collar that simulates the gills of a small minnow.
05-03-2009, 08:33 PM
OKSTATEjiggy

cool concept. I have used red strung hackle base fibers (marabou-ish) to simulate gills.

I'm also working on some mylar bodied jigs... will post pics when I'm a little more satisfied with them
05-03-2009, 08:52 PM
Doc Crappie

Quote:

Originally Posted by flatfish46

Here's a pic of what I was trying to explain to you Doc this one is squirrel in chartreuse I cut the hair full length it gives Me something to hold onto while I ty then I trim the collar that simulates the gills of a small minnow.

Ok I goy yea now sort of like this one I posted yesterday

http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/v...DSC04113-8.jpg