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OK guys and gals please convince me I need to try the 1/100 and 1/128 oz jig heads. How do you fish them.....now I don't ice fish so its gotta be soft water techniques. Why do I need them over a 1/64 oz jig head and what can I expect to do to my catch ratios with these jigs....so tell me please...brim
dont know why.but u put them under a float.sure are tiny whew
I slip string 'em with a 1/64 split about 1' above the jig Brim makes for compact casting and fishable to 10' some days are little bait days!
Only reason I can think of is I hate being skunked and will have whatever I need in my box to prevent it. If that means I have go so small I can barely cast it then so be it. In cold water a small meal is easy to digest I guess.
The main thing I will use them for is when I can see the gills or crappie or know they are in very shallow water and want to make as little splash as possible if I have to cast almost on top of them.
I love the way they fall very slowly just put a sinker a foot above it and one at base of bobber if needed to help cast. the slow fall is deadly IMO.
JJ
You can cast a 1/128 oz jig???? On what? I have a hard time managing a 1/64 oz without split shotting it like FF was talking about. Can you tell me what kind of outfit you have to work with to cast those fly weights. I was seriously thinking about using a fly rod but if you got a rig that can castem' please tell me about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by fish_4_all
The technical term for that is "fly". ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by brimreaper
On something that size, I'd rather just use a fly rod.
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Originally Posted by brimreaper
Good thinking! :D
Seriously, though, you have to use a fly rod or fish it under a float to get any distance at all. If you add split shot to it, it seems like you're just admitting you should be using a bigger jig to begin with.
When I split shot the 64's I am going for the small profile and the split shot is far enough away from the jig not to interfere with the jig's profile. I'll have to admit though that if there is ANY wind it is almost impossible for me to fish this rig. I really appreciate all the info I'm getting so far.....I never realized the things were this popular......keep it coming folks....brimQuote:
Originally Posted by deathb4disco
5'6" to 6' ultra light rod with a small tall spool spinning reel and 4 pound mono filament. I also use Remington braid sometimes for it but if I am not careful it will make a huge mess after about 20 casts from the lack of tension while reeling. Mono will too but the knots are so much worse with braid.
I can throw a BB shot about 25 feet or so. With a swivel a little further.
I will agree that a fly rod is gonna be much better though if not using a float.
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Originally Posted by brimreaper
I do this, too, but I ALWAYS fish this rig under a float. You get better distance and better bite indication.
No additional weight? Then, it's fly rod time.
Last summer, I experimented with this. I used 4# Fireline and a 1/64 oz jig. I could cast 30' or so, but I was in my float tube so I didn't need to cast very far. You can get very close to the fish in a tube.Quote:
Originally Posted by fish_4_all
Earlier this year I posted about a real light rod to work these micro jigs. Smallest I use is 1/80 oz. Anyhow I made my own rod used a two-piece 6'-6" 2 weight fly rod. Straight cork handle and heat tape mounted a Okuma micro reel to it.
Used 10 lb Super braid stren with 6 lb micro crystal ice as leader. 10 lb is 4 lb diameter and 6lb is 2lb diameter. I use real small round bobber if casting is needed. I prefer to vertical jig from boat. Outfit is so light you can hold in hand all day and the " feel " is awesome. Even a 6 inch gill feels like a trophy fish. Biggest fish so far on outfit was a 3-1/2 pound channel cat that inhaled a 1/48 oz minnow head. Even though I don't keep catfish the fight was indeed outstanding.
There is a lot of times that the fish want small offerings.
UL fishing is a "reel" challange.
Have a couple of 5’ and 5.5’ Kencor rods that I wrapped a while back specifically for casting ultra lite jigs with 1 and 2 lb line. Have a 6.5’ with 2lb Tectan that casts UL jigs rally well. I also like to stick on a meal worm - that might be adding some weight.
Also use a lot of 1/64 and 1/32 jigs with crickets and 2 lb line.
As previously mentioned - go with the fly rod for anything smaller, further casting, and way better depth control.
Ledhed I think that meal worm takes you out of UL and puts you in the light category especially if they have been eating well, I think you should try the wax worms they worm really well also. (LOL just kidding you )Quote:
Originally Posted by LedHed
Try balsa wood floats brim"Cast them a "country mile" w/ them on any line"!!!!Dont forget to apply a little split about 6"to 8" above the jig to keep from wrapping...":D TRY FISHING BY BOB for the balsa floats hes got ya covered ,and his website is www.grandpabobscustomjigs.com "he might not have the floats advertised yet but has them for you all the same"
tell him Grubfarmer sent you":D
I regularly fish 1/100, 1/128,1/256 and 1/500. Some fish at times only want the smallest jigs. I prefer the 1/256 and 1/500. I probably fish them about 95% of the time under a float (not a bobber). I would say they are most effective for trout and smaller fish but by no means only a small fish bait. You could easily substitute a tungsten bead head nymph. I usually use 2# test but will probably go to 3# it annoys me when i break off a nice fish.
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Originally Posted by robbor
ok.....thats enough......I just recently found out there was such a thing as a 1/128 oz........A 1/256 AND A 1/500??????????????????????????????????? YOU HAVE GOT TO BE JOKING!!!!!!!!! I give up. Ain't no way I could thread a 1/500 oz jig on a piece of fishing line...500 jigs from 1 oz of lead...you could store them in a thimble. I think I have my answer to "how low can you go?". You could go around claiming you had a blue and chart. jig in your hand and nobody could see it without a microscope. It'd be kinda like those leashes and colars with no dog on the end that people walk around with. 1/100 is my limit....I would like to see some pictures of a 1/500 next to flea for size comparison if the flea didn't cover up the jig too bad. You guys are amazing and you have way better vision and dexterity than I have. What oz test line do you use with those things? And what kinda "whooping stick" do you use. I think that fishing article would go something like this:
Yea Bob, Melvin Van Slam won the new Super feather weight fishing tournament this weekend on raindrop #61 by the super huge margin of 1/10000000000000000000000000000 ounces. He was using the new titanium eyelash rod teamed up with the sodium vapor reel by Flatfish46 Enterprises. He was using paramesium wire braid in # 2 frog hair with the 1/500 oz "no seeum" jigs with single cell bacteria trailers also from Flatfish46 Enterprises.
Yes Jerry, Van Slam was really lucky to get FF46 Enterprises as a sponsor last year. I hear that Stranger boats is also going to sponsor him on the 2020 Tournament micro trail this year and he will be using the Plutonium trolling motors also put out by, You guessed it, FF46 Enterprises.
Bob things just haven't been the same since they started split shotting those no seeum jigs with single electrons and really going for the deep water ichthymicropoloids. Those babys really put that paramesium braid to the test.............and so on............I have been passed by in my old age.......brim
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Originally Posted by brimreaper
The line between "jig" and "fly" has gotten a little fuzzy. It might be tied on a jig hook, but anything that light is a fly, IMO. In the same way, guys who cast big Clouser minnows on heavy fly rods are really fishing jigs, IMO.
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Originally Posted by brimreaper
It sounds like you've never fly fished. ;) The smallest fly hook size I've heard of is a #32, which is about the size of this letter "j". Lots of guys fish these very small flies and catch decent trout on them. My biggest trout was a 20-inch brown taken on a #20 zebra midge.
When you use the small hooks like this post make sure you bend the barb to one side of the jig head and your catch ratio will increase. I just hang one over the side and let some line out 2# max. And cast with the other pole that has a 1/32 jig on it. It's really good if you have been hitting a spot and the fish stop biting on the jig size that you have been using. I like to pull in a spot that some one just left and pick up some stragglers. Sure makes them mad. Very good on a high pressured lake.
I love to fly fish but I pretty much only use dry flies a #14 mosquito pattern is about as small a critter as I fish with. I have caught alot of good fish on that fly. Some of the best days of my life have been spent wading a big creek that was behind my grandmother's house. An old fellow at the local "5 and dime" store turned me onto those little flies and tried to lift a goofy big eared country boy into the higher art forms of fishing. God bless him anyway.......................brimQuote:
Originally Posted by deathb4disco
Put the right fly/jig in front of a fish and they hit it. I have seen fly fishers catch 20 lb. salmon on flies smaller than a dime. I have caught 4+# trout on flies as small as #24. Fish can get "smart" and the ones that do need to be fooled into thinking that they are not eating something that will make them disappear like their buddies did.