Parts costs

Man

I know it's been awhile since I've had to buy parts for making lures but IT"S CRAZY!!!!!!!!!! Just to show you how long ago it's been since I bought Crane Swivels I have two packs left size 12 and one size 7, they are from Janns Sportsmans Supplies!!!!!!!!!! before they merged with Netcraft!!!

I need size 12 crane swivels in nickle 500-1000
colorado 0 couple hundred maybe 500
Indianna 0 couple hundred maybe 500
Size 0 split rings

I have done 4 spreadsheets using Janns, Hagens, Stamina, Barlows and I still don't like the overall cost!!!! Any GREAT ideas on other companies to lower the costs for this stuff!!!!!!

Thanks

Fatman

No help on that one. I just placed an order with Janns for these same items. That 74 cent sale at BPS for RRs looking pretty good now. I'm glad this is only a hobby and entertainment for me. I was afraid to calculate my break even, eg how many I have to lose to the brush. At least we are stimulating the economy. Wonder if these places sell lubricating fluid ?

I looked at worthco.com and if I order everything from them

Swivels $50
blades colorado 0 nickle $15
blades colorado 0 brass $14
Indianna 0 nickle $18
Indianna 0 brass $17
Split rings $21

Total $135 w/0 ship and handling

The blade prices actually aren't too bad, cause some of the places I checked a few hundred blades cost almost as much as the bulk 1000 bag, but it's hard to believe split rings cost more than spinner blades.

The wife is not pleased so I haven't ordered yet.

Fatman

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I need size 12 crane swivels in nickle 500-1000
Colorado 0 couple hundred maybe 500
Indiana 0 couple hundred maybe 500
Size 0 split rings

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(Lakeland)
Safety Snap swivels $57/1000 $29.50/500
Colorado size 0 $36.70/1000 $19.35/500
Indiana size 0 $38.30/1000 $20.15/500
Split rings size 1/0 $13.10/1000

Regular snap swivels are $52.60/1000 $27.30/500

(1000) $145.10 + $14.51 for excise tax, not including shipping and what not.
$82.10 + $8.21 excise tax, not including shipping and what not. (500, 500, 500, 1000)


(Hagens)
Regular snap swivels brass $38.15/1000
Indiana $8.80/1000
Colorado $9.70/1000
Split rings 17.10/1000 German $5.95 for economy rings $19.10/1000 for American rings but size 1 not 1/0 so a little bigger

Thats $73.75/1000, will calculate the other prices and send you the spread sheet if you want. All prices are straight up 1/2 price for 500 except for the split rings which you add $1 for less than 1000.

Lakeland Incorporated: Spinner Blades, Casting Spoons, Fishing Tackle Components
Hagen's Fishing Tackle | Lure Manufacturer

Order their catalogs, Hagen's now has Larva Lace also so they have a bunch of fly/jig tying stuff also and better prices one Larva Lace and tying products than before.

I don't buy my bulk materials from anyone else except hooks. But their hook prices may be better too for making jigs.

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(Lakeland)
Safety Snap swivels $57/1000 $29.50/500
Colorado size 0 $36.70/1000 $19.35/500
Indiana size 0 $38.30/1000 $20.15/500
Split rings size 1/0 $13.10/1000

Regular snap swivels are $52.60/1000 $27.30/500

(1000) $145.10 + $14.51 for excise tax, not including shipping and what not.
$82.10 + $8.21 excise tax, not including shipping and what not. (500, 500, 500, 1000)


(Hagens)
Regular snap swivels brass $38.15/1000
Indiana $8.80/1000
Colorado $9.70/1000
Split rings 17.10/1000 German $5.95 for economy rings $19.10/1000 for American rings but size 1 not 1/0 so a little bigger

Thats $73.75/1000, will calculate the other prices and send you the spread sheet if you want. All prices are straight up 1/2 price for 500 except for the split rings which you add $1 for less than 1000.

Lakeland Incorporated: Spinner Blades, Casting Spoons, Fishing Tackle Components
Hagen's Fishing Tackle | Lure Manufacturer

Order their catalogs, Hagen's now has Larva Lace also so they have a bunch of fly/jig tying stuff also and better prices one Larva Lace and tying products than before.

I don't buy my bulk materials from anyone else except hooks. But their hook prices may be better too for making jigs.

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what size regular snap swivels are you looking for

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Man

I know it's been awhile since I've had to buy parts for making lures but IT"S CRAZY!!!!!!!!!! Just to show you how long ago it's been since I bought Crane Swivels I have two packs left size 12 and one size 7, they are from Janns Sportsmans Supplies!!!!!!!!!! before they merged with Netcraft!!!

I need size 12 crane swivels in nickle 500-1000
colorado 0 couple hundred maybe 500
Indianna 0 couple hundred maybe 500
Size 0 split rings

I have done 4 spreadsheets using Janns, Hagens, Stamina, Barlows and I still don't like the overall cost!!!! Any GREAT ideas on other companies to lower the costs for this stuff!!!!!!

Thanks

Fatman

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fatman is that spreadsheet in excel if so i would like to take a look at it if you dont mind perhaps i could locate something a little less expensive and your spreadsheet would save a little research time.

Yeah but it's at work. Dont know where snap swivels came in but I'm talking Nickle Crane Swivels in #12 I don't use brass. I'll get the spredsheet on Monday or I'll try and re-create it in MS works on my home computer

Fatman

Oh, just the crane barrel, no snap. even cheaper then.

Hagens $26.60/1000
Lakeland $36.79/1000

Sorry, I should have known because I have a couple horse heads. I just assumed snap swivels.

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Oh, just the crane barrel, no snap. even cheaper then.

Hagens $26.60/1000
Lakeland $36.79/1000

Sorry, I should have known because I have a couple horse heads. I just assumed snap swivels.

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Let just remember something here cheap is not always better you get exactly what you pay for anymore, who makes the barrel swivels that Hagens and lakeland sell? And Oh yea did I tell you there prices are HIGH

All this stuff cost for sure. Even the feathers can cost more at some places for sure. I like the length of the Salt water neck hackle, but it does cost me more to buy them. It is as high wholesale as other neck hackle is retail. Lots of things like that. I just paid a crazy price for chart neck hackle for a pound and I know I can buy them a lot less and die them my self, but I just like this colors at this one place so I got them. It saves over buying packs, but wow is this high.

Skip

Lakeland is imported. Hagens not sure but I do know that I will use Hagens swivels any day of the week for any fish I fish for. I have used their crane interlock snap swivels and crane swivels for years and have never had one break, tarnish or fail to function properly.

Guess I should have used less expensive, when I think something is cheap I call it junk.

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Lakeland is imported. Hagens not sure but I do know that I will use Hagens swivels any day of the week for any fish I fish for. I have used their crane interlock snap swivels and crane swivels for years and have never had one break, tarnish or fail to function properly.

Guess I should have used less expensive, when I think something is cheap I call it junk.

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let tell you something that size swivel #12 is more than likely imported for do you really think hagens are the only one's that can get the swivels that they are selling I would almost like to guess where they are getting them from and that company is very good and stands behind all there products. All I am saying is you can get them cheaper without the markup buying them direct it is not about who you think sells better product, it about getting it for less

Doesn't matter to me where I get them. If there is a less expensive place then I am all for it. I wasn't trying to be offensive or snotty, just stating what I know. I will buy them from you if you can get them direct. Gonna need more crane swivel with interlock snaps sooner or later. I can't find them direct. All I know is I hate paying the crazy prices in the stores. For that matter, I will send you my spread sheet for spinner components I need for fall. Would love to find a better price.

Like I have said before, rather buy from another member anyway.

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Doesn't matter to me where I get them. If there is a less expensive place then I am all for it. I wasn't trying to be offensive or snotty, just stating what I know. I will buy them from you if you can get them direct. Gonna need more crane swivel with interlock snaps sooner or later. I can't find them direct. All I know is I hate paying the crazy prices in the stores. For that matter, I will send you my spread sheet for spinner components I need for fall. Would love to find a better price.

Like I have said before, rather buy from another member anyway.

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The interlock swivels those can be a nit pricey depending on the size that you are looking for and they are really marked up in the stores for you dont really start getting much of a discount until you hit about 5000 pieces than you have the excise tax as well as shipping added to it, shops have no choice but to mark them way up.

What size interlock snaps are you looking for?

3,5,7

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3,5,7

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now you need just the snap or the complete swivel with snap

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3,5,7

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oh yea did I ask brass, nickel or black

Complete swivel, crane barrel with safety snap. Color doesn't matter, fish don't care but I normally use silver simply to prevent rust/corrosion if that really matters anymore with the coatings they use.

Fatman, have you ever made them with a snap instead of a barrel so you can exchange the blade out with different size and/or colors? It should still wobble alright and work to attract fish with one. Although I admit I don't know if the blade spins or just wobbles as I haven't used them, yet.

Fish I'll stick to the crane swivels!!! They may cost more but they make the jig look so good.

Fatman

Well with all the suggestions from here and other fishing boards I'm gonna go with the full shot of 1000 on everything from Worth. Most places order from them and then repackage and I know their quality is excellent.

Fatman

fatman let me look at see how many crane swivels i have i might be able to sell you 1000 for about $12.00....i had around 15,000 but dont know how many bags im down too