Screenshot, Lowrance SI...

Lowrance Side Viewing!!! No Rumor: Sonar/GPS Installation & Operation: BBC Boards

Just a comment of my own...do you find it ironic that HB comes out with a software update for their 2d long about the time that Lowrance offers SI. Given the fact IF Lowrance SI has the same or nearly the same quality and functionality that the HB SI offers, it only stands to reason that they would make an attempt to clean up their 2d image. Could be a coincidence :rolleyes:.

Gotta love competition...good for the consumer!

it looks like it was taken with a humminbird 997. if it is theirs you are only paying double for what humminbird already does how ironic is that

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Originally Posted by dedawg1149

it looks like it was taken with a humminbird 997. if it is theirs you are only paying double for what humminbird already does how ironic is that

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Correct me if I am wrong...

Lowrance provides a better solution for 2d
Lowrance broad sounder software takes that to a new level
Lowrance GPS has yet to show users the "lag time" in the gps system, HB has
Humminbird provides SI (giving the operator a unique perspective to the underwater world)
With the advent of the SI from Lowrance, and if it is on par with Humminbirds solution it could result in a "break even" situation

Pricing (from my vantage point) comparing the hds 8 without a transducer is $90 less than humminbird 997 without a transducer

Lowrances' puck could be a deal breaker, but "competition" should keep it in the ball park.

Now my statement in regards to Humminbird coming out with a software update, in my mind this is an indication on their part that they need to up the ante for their product to keep people in their camp. Fixing the GPS problem would do wonders for them!!

I fail to see, at this point in time, how Lowrance is charging DOUBLE what humminbird does for their product. Granted, as I have stated, the price of the ducer is still an unknown.

Don't get me wrong, I am on the fence....will get either the HB 997si or the HDS 8. Just waiting for the smoke to clear and get by with what I have.

Food for thought...last year Lowrance had rebates of $200 for sonar's in the 8" catagory. Wishful thinking that they would provide the same thing this summer, especially with our economy being what it is. Haven't seen anything in regards to Humminbird and rebates. (Rebates aren't going to be the final decision for some...but if all things are equal and you could save a C note or 2....why not?)

i would stay with the hb they are already updating the 2d and the side imaging has been tweaked a lot i figured now with competition they will fix the gps problem.now wait and see what type of problems lowrance is going to have the new units are having problams inquiring locks on to satellites and they already need a update to read navionics ,i would think there problems are just starting were humminbird is getting closer.that is just my opinion also price wise there unit will be at least a 1000.00 more total .if it is even there screen shoot it looks like a humminbird

That example image on the link is not up to par with humminbird images in my opinion. Its very dark except for the areas closest to the water column. Now this may just be a poor example image so I'd like to see several more for comparison.

Also something to think about. Will the Lowrance be able to mark waypoints out from the boat on the SI? That is one think I have seen asked? If not its not worth buying for me. AS I like that I can see a brush pile 200 ft left of the boat. Mark it and go fish it with no problem.
Pete

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Also something to think about. Will the Lowrance be able to mark waypoints out from the boat on the SI? That is one think I have seen asked? If not its not worth buying for me. AS I like that I can see a brush pile 200 ft left of the boat. Mark it and go fish it with no problem.
Pete

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You bring up a very good point Shiloh....I just assumed it would have this capability:o.

I definitely agree with you.

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Also something to think about. Will the Lowrance be able to mark waypoints out from the boat on the SI? That is one think I have seen asked? If not its not worth buying for me. AS I like that I can see a brush pile 200 ft left of the boat. Mark it and go fish it with no problem.
Pete

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Your right on ShilohRed. If the marking of something on the SI and really going to it would be a better benefit if it really works.
The stakes have been raised.
LOL

I bet good money Lowrance has been thru the HB si. I sure would if it were me. It will have the same basic features. I base this opinion on personal experience (for what it is worth).

you all talk of lowrance si , how sure are you that they are going to produce one? I can't find anywhere , you can see or hear lowrance talk about them. If anyone can point me to the right place for more information ,I would like to know where to find moreon lowrances timing

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you all talk of lowrance si , how sure are you that they are going to produce one? I can't find anywhere , you can see or hear lowrance talk about them. If anyone can point me to the right place for more information ,I would like to know where to find moreon lowrances timing

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Will this do??
http://www.lowrance.com/en/About/Pre...ition-Systems/

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02-19-2009, 09:53 PM
drifter106
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Originally Posted by dedawg1149
it looks like it was taken with a humminbird 997. if it is theirs you are only paying double for what humminbird already does how ironic is that
Points of emphasis:

Correct me if I am wrong...

Lowrance provides a better solution for 2d
Lowrance broad sounder software takes that to a new level
Lowrance GPS has yet to show users the "lag time" in the gps system, HB has

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HB GPS system updates once per second at its fastest set up, The New Lowrance 16 channel GPS puck updates its system 5x's per second. I bet U will not find a lag in their system, period.

In defense of HB, the gps sattelites only update every second. Pings from heaven are 1 second apart. I don't have a clue what Lowrances is doing with their refresh. It ain't from the sattelite Gods.

They all have one thing in common. Get your money...:mad:

It is hard to compare the units using the manufs published specifications. All of them (manufs) have their own method of stating their units specifications. There are no common rules/guidelines for the specifications. They tell us anything they want. I gurantee these facts.

Power ratings are a farce. It is not audio power as we know it in stereos.
These are the things they really dont want us to know. I have had this conversation before with HB. I believe HB should be clear about their published power ratings and so should the rest of the manufs. And, by the way HB, I do understand DBm. HB, you just fail to mention this on your web page and your manuals (just as how power is measured and with respect to what). All are guilty of misleading facts.

I will gurantee I will be reading and checking out all of you manufs. Shame on you for the misleading information.

finally called lowrance service centerabout si . lady told me engineers will have something out laterthis year .that it will work on the hds 10 and 8 models . the hds10s won't be out till late march. lest it gives me some thing to think about what to buy .think I will wait a little longer to see whatlqwrance si is capable of . still have alot of faith in their products

finally called lowrance service centerabout si . lady told me engineers will have something out laterthis year .that it will work on the hds 10 and 8 models . the hds10s won't be out till late march. lest it gives me some thing to think about what to buy .think I will wait a little longer to see ,what lowrance si is capable of . canepole is probably right lowrance won't let us down .l qwrance si is capable of . still have alot of faith in their products

This is what I got when I recently emailed Lowrance about the SI:

Thank you for your inquiry.

We are currently working on a side scan unit. At this time, everything is still in product development and any information we can provide at this time would be premature. We are expecting the release sometime this year, but have no date at this time. As soon as this does become available, it will be posted on our website.

We do apologize that we can not provide more detail at this time.

If we can be of further assistance, feel free to contact us.

Thank you for choosing Lowrance Electronics.

Lowrance Customer Service
12000 E. Skelly Dr.
Tulsa, OK 74128

Seems like they keep going back and forth. I read that the prices will be available in July, which makes it tough to get the units ready by March as some have said. And now they will be only for HDS 8 and 10. What about those not wanting to drop the ridiculous money on those who would rather get the smaller HDS? I personally will be going with the HB. They have been working to fix all the problems so far, and since the units are updatable, at least we won't have to buy a new unit to get the latest software. HB has a good head start on the problems. While Lowrance is fixing their issues once it arrives, those of us with HB will be fishing. Not to say that the Lowarnce won't be awesome, but I for one don't have the extra $$$ to keep buying new transducers and the like after spending $1000-$3000 to begin with.

I think i'll just wait a while before i get my SI. I dont want to buy a unit with a known problem that the company wont fix at all. At least they are admitting the problem now tho. The newer SI that will be released later this year may not be as good as the older model in some ways, but at least they've had a chance to take a look at what the other model wont do. Maybe they will correct that problem and be competative in prices. Before i throw down $2K to $3K, i'll do my homework on the latest releases first. Guys that already have them, just keep enjoying yours to the fullest extent of what it will do for you. Thats why i'm buying mine.

When you really think about it, no matter what we buy, there will always be something better right around the corner. The way I see it, if I keep waiting for something better, I'll never buy anything. Lowrance will release theirs, then HB will work to top it, then Lowrance to top HB, and so on and so on. I know guys who have the HB SI and are very happy with it and use them to catch a lot of fish. Just gonna buy mine and, like Chaunc said, enjoy it to the fullest extent of what it will do for me. Not to mention with the $$$ I might save with the HB, I can afford the upgraded GPS puck if need be. I'm sure those who buy the Lowrance when it does come out will love it. They always put out a great product. I just can't wait any longer. The Joneses are pulling away and I gotta try to keep up:D;).

"For extra precision, it offers 5 Hz Measurement Pulse Output with rising edges that align to precise 0.2 second increments of UTC time, as long as the receiver has reported a valid and accurate position during the past 4 seconds".

This information is from a GPS chip set that has the 5 HZ refresh capability.

What this is basically saying is that the 5 hz refresh is a calculated guess based on received position from the GPS satellites and a digital clock internal to the gps receiver, not the satellite signal coming 5 times a second.. I believe this technique is used in agriculture and surveying.

I do not know much about this as there is not much info on the net yet.

Everyone is tight lipped about this stuff.