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Just wondering what most of you guys do when it comes to the jig 1/32 and 1/16 oz. Do you pour your own for making jigs or do you purchase jig heads for your jig making needs.
If you pour them what molds do you use and if you buy them where are some good places to purchase them from.
Pour mine. I do this because I like bigger hooks than most folks. I use a #1 in all of mine. I got one mold on e-bay, but you have to be careful not to get one that is warped. The others I got from Barlowstackle.com. I use the "do-it" molds.
Done The Math, Used To Do Our Own But Hooks Were $18 A 1000 Now They Are $60. We Buy 1/16 Oz #2 #4 #6 Or #8 $ 4.29 Per 50. Can't Pour Them For That And We Buy 1 1/2" Tube Bodies Any Color Comb You Would Want For $4 Per 100........:)
I pour mine......... Also use the do--it mold.. Got mine at gander mountain.
That would be $85.80 per 1000. I get 1000 hooks for $25. Think I will keep "doin' my own."Quote:
Originally Posted by olesilverside
I pour my own.I like a lot of different sizes and if I want a 1/80 on a #6 sickle I have a mold that I can do that.Most do-it molds have the ability to pour two or more size jig hooks.Barlow's,ebay are good places to start if looking for molds.If you only use a couple hundred jigs per year then I would suggest buying them.
Ive thought about getting into pouring,but the wife said about hobbies, "one in,one out "I enjoy my tying,fishing and a few others ;) And Grousefly is only an email away !!
Well, do what I did...Tell wify that pouring is part of tying so it is ONE hobby!:cool: (just don't say it when she's around):DQuote:
Originally Posted by radtexan
Don't pour and don't want to as I sped enough time tying and since I do this for something to do when not fishing, well not giving up more fishing to pour.
Plus after all the darn money I spend on materials I don't need another thing to buy like molds and such. Would quit tying to sell before I start pouring.
Skip
I like pouring my own. That way I can decide size, color of hook etc. etc. Course it was an easy decision for me as I have always poured my own jigs even before I started to tie. It could be really time consuming for somebody that is tying large quantities for sale.
As I only tie for myself pouring what I need can usually done on a foul weather day and no fishing time is lost. Pouring for commercial purpose would also require a bottom pour production pot. Luckily I already had one of these for pouring my own bullets when I used to hunt.
As a caution the smaller the jig the more trouble I have with it. Don't know if its just me or what. Once I go below 1/32 oz the headaches seem to multiply. I would love to have one of those 10 at a time pro do-it precision molds but cannot bring myself to spending over a 100.00 on a mold. I will just poke along using the standard do-it @ 31.00
the lee production pot makes pouring easy. well worth the price.
I don't bother pouring my own. It's too easy to buy exactly what I want. I just don't see myself saving any money by pouring my own. Besides, between fishhunter775 and Grousefly, you can get just about any size, for a very reasonable price.
Yeah what SKIPTOMYLOU said"And fishhunter 775 is the best ive found so far as far as variety/price!need to check out the GROUSEFLY:cool:
pour my own...make them however i want...been pouring 1/4oz on #2 black crome sickles
Thanks for all the input it makes you think a little harder before you jump feet first into something that you have never done before. I would like to give it a try but will think about it some more before making my decision.
I also have another question it leads off the first one about buying or pouring. What style jig head is the easiest to use or when tying your own jigs. There are so many different styles out there to choose from. But from the fly tying point of view is there one style that is easier to tie on than another, especially for someone that is just starting out tying there own jigs.
Along with that what are the basic materials or kinds of material needed (besides a vise) for tying your basic crappie jigs.
http://www.crappie.com/crappie/jig-t...new-tying.html
Gives you all you need to start. As for jig heads, I like the plain ball head jig. No colars on it.
Just remember for tying you don't want a collar and that is the main thing. Head shape is a taste thing I think and mostly use just a ball head. I do have some Shad Dart heads and some Pill heads, but way more ball heads and I stock from 1/80, 1/64, 1/32, 1/24, 1/16, 1/8 & 1/4 with several hook sizes and styles of each. 1/80 is the only size I don't have sickle hooks in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Doc Crappie
Skip
I buy em from Grousefly.
I don't trust myself around molten metal.
what size thread are you using when you are tying jigs does it make a differenceQuote:
Originally Posted by skiptomylu
I pour my own jig heads when I need big ones. Can't beat the price when I am pouring 5/8 ounce bullet jigs when it costs me over $0.90 each to buy them. If I could find a reliable source for them I would buy them. I do pour my own pencil lead. I doubt anyone can beat the price of $0.27-0.30 a pound when it costs $4 a pound in the stores. Until I can find it cheaper or find someone to pour it for me for cheaper I pour my own.
I will buy the smaller crappie jigs, have 5 sources from here to buy them and can't complain about any of the 3 I have gotten jig heads from so far.
I pour my own. But, I don't sell my jigs so I don't have to pour that many. If you are gonna be sellin em I would definitely buy em already poured.
By pouring my own I can paint a few here and there and not be rushed. It's fun and give me something to do on a cold day! :)
For tying jigs, you want a no collar jig. Round head is the simplest & works just fine. Crappie don't seem to care if'n they are painted or not but I care! :)
we used to have about 13 molds we quit pouring a long time ago it was cheaper for me to buy the heads already poured
Anybody else try split shot for jig heads?
It works great, just put a base of thread on the hook followed by epoxy and then crimp your split shot on the hook.
You can make some pretty tiny jigs this way.
I like that idea but do you have problems with the split shot falling off after catching a few fishQuote:
Originally Posted by hogan
Where do you pick your jigs up from when you buy, for that does sound the easiest way to do it. And what is the smallest size you can get in bulkQuote:
Originally Posted by snake River
I like many others tie and pour my own!!! I like to change up hook sizes so it's easier to pour my own and with the winters we have up here it gives me something to do that's fishing related!!!!!!!! $85+ per thousand??? let us know where you paid that so we stay away from it.
fatman
I have not had a problem with it, as long as the thread base on the hook is good. Once the thread base is on there either put the epoxy directly on the thread or put it inside the split shot before crimping it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Doc Crappie
Another thing that I do is when I paint the jig head, I use epoxy that has been colored with enamel paint. It then fills the fine crack that remains in the split shot.
I pour and tie my own jigs. Use a Lee bottom pour lead melter, and use Do-it molds,size 1/80 and up,and Mustad hooks, from jannsnetcraft.com. Have both the round head no body, and round head with the body, also have the minnow head mold.
As for which style head is easier to tie on, i dont have any trouble with any of them.
And i use monocord thread to tie with.