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What is the real difference? Is it size mostly? Colors more than anything? Tail structure, design or what?
I know most anything we tie will catch any and all panfish but what does it take for someone to look at it and go that's for bluegill before saying it is a crappie jig?
Don't really know myself they're all panfish jigs to me and always have been
Fatman
Normally it's size Fish I personally fish small heads 1/48 down usally 1/60 and 1/80 or beads lotta yellow and orange and red and blacks are the weapons of choice.
So is it more that crappie will hit "bluegill" jigs where bluegill may not hit the larger ones you see for crappie?
I think a good brim jig looks buggy and a good crappie jig looks minnowish
I agree with OKSTATE,but ! I also believe that plastic will out-produce tied jigs MOST of the time.
We have some really nice blue gill and a few good crappie on the lake where I live. I started making jigs just so I could catch some of the blue gill in my lake. I'd recommend a 1/32 oz. jig head or smaller so the gills can take it and use black, purple, brown or some other dark color with a crappie nibble and hold on.
CR
I think that depends on the body of water, and what works there. I have slayed bluegill on 1/16 oz. hair jigs, and curlytails, but they need to be pretty agressive for that size jig. there is a guy on another site that catches bluegill in 25 feet of water with a blue fox spoon, with a rattle built in, plus a waxworm on the hook. the sponn is 1/16 and over 2" I think. thats a pretty big bait for bluegills, but he does very well.
Size and color, IMO. Although, I've caught gills on bigger jigs, I think a 1/64 head and a hook no bigger than #8 is just about ideal. I also like them in black. For crappies, I fish white and chartreuse almost exclusively.Quote:
Originally Posted by fish_4_all
i use 1/100oz w/ #8 for gills and 1/16oz-1/80oz for crappie same pattrens for both
I catch blue gills when trolling for crappie if going a bit slow. I do think size is the biggest difference and not necessary weight, but hook size. Also usually dark color, black brown will do better on blue gills than crappie, but the blue gills will hit more colorful as well.
I was testing blue gills some last spring and using 1/32 & 1/64 heads and they both were tied with #8 regular bend and or sickle hooks. I know for a face many of my big crappie in the spring have come on little bitty jigs. I have some of one that they don't make any longer and they are 1/16 and 1/32 with head the only real difference and they have a very short skirt type material and will catch crappie like crazy.
So I think for the most part you can catch both on the same jigs just go slower if bream are your target. I have caught bream trolling with jigs with a #4 Sickle hook, but their mouths make it clearly better to use a smaller hook for the bream.
That is my opinion,
Skip
I agree with skip. Size is more important than weight, but i have caught bream on all sizes of jigs. Heck, i frequently catch them on a 2/0 offset worm hook with a 6" lizard fishing for bass in the creek behind the house.
I use alot of the same patterns when tying bream jigs as i do for crappie, but i tend to stick with more natural colors....they seem to produce larger bream. Bream are really curious fish, the smaller ones will almost always bite something bright and shiny if its dropped in front of them.
The only way to find out for sure though is to tie some up and get out and do some fishin!
If I remember right I saw a shooting action fishing pole specifically designed for dock shooting. The tip was designed to form a tight bend for slinging the jig under the docks. Could be wrong though and it might have been a custom made pole. I am pretty sure it wasn't called a shooting pole though.
That's a good assessment. Most crappie jigs (91%) I tie are 1/16 or 1/32nd.Quote:
Originally Posted by OKSTATEjiggy
Bream and "Gill jigs I tie are usually 1/64 or 1/80
Typically, crappie go after baitfish looking baits and bream after insect looking baits.
Not always the case but generally it is.
So does my fishing buddy... but I have been catching the most fish for the last several trips. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by GAMENESS
So, who knows? I think it is one of those "some days you get the bear, some days the bear gets you" sorta things.
I like a tied yarn jig because they are 1000 times more durable than tubes. And the ones I tie catch fish. :)
Tom
Yes size i feel is one of the keys. I like the 1/32 and smaller and also hooks #8 or smaller. I also use the 1/100 alot with #12 hooks. I have found most often black with be a top performer for gills. Although i often use colored ice jigs tipped with a redworm, or just a hook.
Ok I know I said usually darker colors, but I also think bream will go after very bright colors. I know this because of my bass fishing past. We use to put on worms that either had fire tails or blue tail or even chart tails and the bream would eat the tails off and that is how I found the best bream I ever caught. Friend and I got 42 one morning with the smallest at 3/4 pound and biggest at 1 3/4 pounds. Wish I had known that would have been lake records as we would still hold that.
So here are a couple I made up using some synthetic hair (said to be the smallest synthetic hair made). Here they are and please excuse the glare as I had them in a package to send to someone.
Skip
One is 1/64 and the other is 1/32 so it's hard to even tell the difference. Both #8 Sickle hooks.
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b4...20Jigs/915.jpg
now i have only ever been catching small bluegills (ill fix that this year), but my experience has been that crappies like minnowy stuff, and bluegills will bite anything moving