powder paint problem in the fluid bed (red)

yesterday me and the wife powder coated some lures and we found out the the red and the fluid bed dont like each other the red just wouldn't boil and it looked like a smoke bomb on the 4th of july. this is weird cause all of my other powder paints work just fine in my fluid bed . im just starting to think that the red powder paint is too heavy or i got a bad batch or red or it had to much moisture in it .Has anyone had this problem with red powder paint? :confused:

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Originally Posted by crappie josh

yesterday me and the wife powder coated some lures and we found out the the red and the fluid bed dont like each other the red just wouldn't boil and it looked like a smoke bomb on the 4th of july. this is weird cause all of my other powder paints work just fine in my fluid bed . im just starting to think that the red powder paint is too heavy or i got a bad batch or red or it had to much moisture in it .Has anyone had this problem with red powder paint? :confused:

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Probably depends on the brand of paint unless you are using Pro-Tec and then I don't know. I have Pro-Tec as well as another mfg. and the other one is much harder to get to work in the fluid bed.

Skip

I have the red from T&J and I used it last night with no problem

Ditto on skip's post. I have the Pro-tec and having no problems.

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Originally Posted by laserdoc

I have the red from T&J and I used it last night with no problem

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Just FYI, I think T&J is Pro-Tec. They put peoples labels on their paint a lot I believe.

Skip

most of the tackle places that sell powder paint sell pro-tec...they just buy it by the pounds and break it down into ounces....

I have never heard of T & J, but there is a TJ's tackle, and I know for a fact that all his powder paint is Pro-Tec. Just some info on powder paint. There is no bad powder paint. Just because powder paint will not fluidize, doesn't make it bad. Different colors of powder along with different manufacturers, make different consistencies of powder. The other issue which is hard to pinpoint is that the fluid bed you have with its membrane, is probably not the same fluid bed I have with my membrane. Your black and blue may work really well in your fluid bed, but my black and blue might not work in mine, even though we have the same paint manufacturer. The only way powder paint turns non-usable is in three ways. #1 water gets into it, #2 you leave it in a car in the sun for days, and the paint start the bonding process from heat, and #3, when it gets a lot of moisture, and it turns as hard as a rock. Even then you still can use it. Just a tip for all you fluid bed users. The best way to keep your powder moisture proof, is to always take it out of your fluid bed when you are done, and put it back in its cannister, I know it's a pain, but so is fooling around for a couple of hours with humid powder..........I hope this helps some of you guys in the future.

Its TJ's my mistake

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Originally Posted by laserdoc

Its TJ's my mistake

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No problem, I just thought there was another source for powder paint, that I haven't heard about. I pretty much know all of them, but there may be a new one pop up here and there. Always good to know more sources.

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Originally Posted by cadman

I have never heard of T & J, but there is a TJ's tackle, and I know for a fact that all his powder paint is Pro-Tec. Just some info on powder paint. There is no bad powder paint. Just because powder paint will not fluidize, doesn't make it bad. Different colors of powder along with different manufacturers, make different consistencies of powder. The other issue which is hard to pinpoint is that the fluid bed you have with its membrane, is probably not the same fluid bed I have with my membrane. Your black and blue may work really well in your fluid bed, but my black and blue might not work in mine, even though we have the same paint manufacturer. The only way powder paint turns non-usable is in three ways. #1 water gets into it, #2 you leave it in a car in the sun for days, and the paint start the bonding process from heat, and #3, when it gets a lot of moisture, and it turns as hard as a rock. Even then you still can use it. Just a tip for all you fluid bed users. The best way to keep your powder moisture proof, is to always take it out of your fluid bed when you are done, and put it back in its cannister, I know it's a pain, but so is fooling around for a couple of hours with humid powder..........I hope this helps some of you guys in the future.

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Cad...sure are right about pain to put back in container every time. Like the wise old farmer said, "Pay now or pay later. Later price is a lot higher."
Rather take the time to put back each time than once having the moisture problem.

i might have just gotten a bad batch of paint? pro-tec powder paintis the only type of powder paint that i buy i have like 7 or 8 different colors of paint but ive got just 1 fluid bed cup at the moment and ive just been using the same cup and just cleaning the cup out do you think that that could have something to do with my red just smokeing?

Awhile back CSI (Pro-Tech) changed owners. Some users, on another site, noted difficulty in using some of the new PP. It could be that you do have a bad batch. CSI also supplies Netcraft.

Pour the pp on a pane of glass or a mirror, level it out, and look for clumps. Use the back of a spoon to mash down the pp.

Try adding 1 or 2 table spoons of clear to 1 ounce of red.

Make some extra cups using membranes that have different sized pores.

what kind of material is the bottom of the cups made of and where could i get some or would it be cheaper to just buy the cups from a dealer?

I used paper coffee filters on my cups. They seem to work fine. I made 5 of them

CJ
Not sure where you got your fluid bed - can't tell you what your medium is. Like LD said you can use coffee filters - have read where someone has used pillow case material. Some use micro mesh screen.